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Ken

02-29-2004 20:55:13




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On a recently purchased Super A I noticed a slight water leak from the steering box. The box had been fitted with a grease zerk an filled with grease. Would it be alright to flush the box out with gasoline and refill with 90 wt oil?




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Hugh MacKay

03-01-2004 03:11:00




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 Re: Steering Gear Box in reply to Ken, 02-29-2004 20:55:13  
Ken: One weakness in all those offset tractors was the ability of those steering boxes to hold oil. Many of them started leaking before they were 5 years old, and after a fix they will only hold a short while. The front end of the tractor then becomes a mess of oil.

The best solution was to put grease zerk in the hole on the back of box. Initially you must pump enough grease in there to completely fill the box. Start with drain and fill plugs both out, as the grease comes out put the plugs back in. After that every time you grease because box is full, new grease must go to the gears.

I have had my Super A and 130 that way for years. They stay nice and clean now, and are lubricated much better. If they are full of grease water can't get in the box. They do not steer hard in winter. With oil and water mix in the past I have seen them freeze solid. I think if you remove those plugs and start pumping grease in you will force water out. I have always started from a clean and empty gear box, so I wouldn't frown on taking it apart. I had my tractors apart fixing free play in steering, that being the real reason for having them apart.

IH may have also found a cure for this problem as I notice my 140 now close to 40 years old does not leak, however I question if it has ever seen 500 hours of work. Maybe some other 140 owners could enlighten us on that one.

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Ken

03-01-2004 15:18:57




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 Re: Re: Steering Gear Box in reply to Hugh MacKay, 03-01-2004 03:11:00  
My Super A has the grease zerk. I was just curious if I could flush it out before filling or if it was even necessary.



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Hugh MacKay

03-01-2004 16:22:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Steering Gear Box in reply to Ken, 03-01-2004 15:18:57  
Ken: My only concern would be, how well has the grease been maintained since the previous owners started using it. You know if it were oil and your drained it the shape of the gear box insures oil and water will drain. However once grease is used it must be looked after. You say there is water there now. Grease could have formed in there in such a way it is actually holding pockets of water from draining. I would try using a wire through the drain hole, just manuver it around and thus find water pockets if any. The secret for success with grease in my opinion is keeping the gear box full of grease. If you have water in there and the temperature goes far below freezing, steering will not be fun, doesn't matter whether the water is mixed with grease or oil.

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KEN

03-01-2004 17:50:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Steering Gear Box in reply to Hugh MacKay, 03-01-2004 16:22:22  
Thanks Hugh.

Ken



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Vern

02-29-2004 21:25:58




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 Re: Steering Gear Box in reply to Ken, 02-29-2004 20:55:13  
Yes, but it will probably leak. Many were filled with grease due to the leakage problem.



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