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is there a way to make 140 live PTO??

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Tom

03-20-2004 19:05:48




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I am thinking that would be a nice feature. Is there a way to convert it to live? Any comments are appreciated. TIA, Tom




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03-21-2004 09:47:53




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 Re: is there a way to make 140 live PTO?? in reply to Tom, 03-20-2004 19:05:48  
....moving south or west where you have NO snow to contend with? May be cheaper than working snow/snowblower/snowplow, etc.



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CNKS

03-20-2004 19:22:41




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 Re: is there a way to make 140 live PTO?? in reply to Tom, 03-20-2004 19:05:48  
In a word, no. IH made the 140 through 1979, 20 or more years after live PTO became common. If it would have been an easy change, they would have done it, apparantly did not because of the cost?? An example of a more "modern" tractor that did not originally come with a live PTO is the 404, a rather loose descendant of the 140. IH did eventually change those, but not the 140.



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Tom

03-20-2004 19:47:17




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 Re: Re: is there a way to make 140 live PTO?? in reply to CNKS, 03-20-2004 19:22:41  
Thanks! What I would like to do is mount a PTO snowblower on one of my 140s. What about some type of contraption on the front? Bringing it off the front spindle??

Am I out of my mind?

Actually, the snow in western Pa for the last two years has been killer and the farm lane is hard to keep open. Tha blade/plow just is too hard. TIA, Tom



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Hugh MacKay

03-21-2004 03:23:13




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 Re: Re: Re: is there a way to make 140 live PTO?? in reply to Tom, 03-20-2004 19:47:17  
Tom: This same subject came up this past winter in the height of the snow season. A guy wanted to put a front mounted snow blower on the front of onw of either SA, 100, 130 or 140. I suggested to him at that time that he mount an auxillery engine on the drawbar with a power shaft going through under the tractor. The aux. engine would make a great counter weight. But there is still one problem, if you watch sonwblowers working even on big tractors they are traveling at speeds slower than a 140 will travel in 1st at low idle. Even then you see them stopping a lot giving the snowblower time to do it's job. I think if you mounted a snowblower on a 140 with the aux engine, you would find yourself riding the clutch so much, that you would be installing a new clutch every year.

I had a situation much the same as you. I plow my snow with my 130 and drivway kept closing in. This is a few years back and my neighbor had a walk behind snow blower that didn't work well in wet snow. As a result I was plowing his driveway as well. It seemed to keep snowing every day and my neighbor wondered what we were going to do when I ran out of places to push snow. I told him to wait for the next frosty but nice sunnt day. It came, and I went out with my angle blade, and cut snow off sides of driveway, leaving a windrow of crunchy snow that his blower handled very well. We started at 9 am with around 500' of driveway less than 8' wide. By noon we had the whole driveway 14' wide. That worked so well that from then on I didn't even try to push snow back that far. Another item we learned was to do the windrowing and blowing on milder days, with temps just below freezing as the blown snow will then crust and stay in place better, especially if you do this in am and by noon you have melting conditions. And that is a good part of the battle in plowing snow, making it stay where you put it.

My suggestion to you is buy a good walk behind snow blower, as a standby and continue to plow snow with the 140. Another option would be calling someone with a snowblower on a nice sunny day to do as my neighbor and I did. Those guys will not be very busy on a nice day. Of course now that I am getting older, I like to transfer as much of my snow removal as possible from nasty days to nice sunny days.

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CNKS

03-20-2004 19:57:00




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 Re: Re: Re: is there a way to make 140 live PTO?? in reply to Tom, 03-20-2004 19:47:17  
Read your 2nd paragraph again, if you mount a snowblower you, not me, will answer yes. 140 is geared to fast, and without a live pto you will have problems. This was discussed recently, may be on one of the last pages by now.



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