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Need opinions on long axles on 1066

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Mitchissippi

03-24-2004 08:25:28




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The 1066 I'm running has the long axles. I'm set up on 38" row spacing and don't ever see needing duals. The axles stick out nearly a foot past the tires and will tear a gate post up! I have a parts tractor with shorter axles - stick out about 4" past the tires on the 38" spacing.

My question is, do y'all think it'd be worth me trouble swap the long axles for the shorter ones? It's what I want, but I got to wondering if this would change the value of my tractor.

I'd like to sell axles I don't use. Would longer axles sell easier than the shorter ones?

Would swapping the entire final drive housing assemblies be to way to go?

What do you fellers think?

Mitch

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Binderboy

03-25-2004 19:59:56




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 Re: Need opinions on long axles on 1066 in reply to Mitchissippi, 03-24-2004 08:25:28  
All you have to do is jack the tire off the ground and spin it slowly as you cut through the axle with a chop saw. Spinning the axle reduces your cutting time by about 80%, it makes it look alot nicer, and is a heck of alot easier on the saw and the operator!



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scottAR

03-24-2004 19:16:02




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 Re: Need opinions on long axles on 1066 in reply to Mitchissippi, 03-24-2004 08:25:28  
Not a suggestion but just for your information, I have two neighbors that cut the axles from a 966, 1066, and a 5020 JD with a blue flame wrench about twenty years ago. Looked like @#$# but didn't cause any problems.



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Mitchissippi

03-24-2004 20:39:53




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 Re: Re: Need opinions on long axles on 1066 in reply to scottAR, 03-24-2004 19:16:02  
I've seen that done before, but I couldn't bare to do it on mine. I've often wondered if it would hurt the axles.



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mikeinmo

03-24-2004 17:46:21




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 Re: Need opinions on long axles on 1066 in reply to Mitchissippi, 03-24-2004 08:25:28  
Maybe you like wrenching more than I do. We have cut several axles on IH's around here. We use a "quickie saw". Gas powered abrasive cut off saw that we use on the job site. Find someone with one of these or rent one, maybe you have one. Get a few blades for cutting steel, not the concrete blades. Takes about one blade for each side. Make a good square cut and then bevel the end with a grinder, add a little black paint and it'll be hard to tell it was ever cut. I have cut four or five sets for neighbors and don't know of any problems from this. Good Luck.

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Mitchissippi

03-24-2004 20:47:32




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 Re: Re: Need opinions on long axles on 1066 in reply to mikeinmo, 03-24-2004 17:46:21  
I think I might cut them with a saw before I used a torch. I just hate to cut them when I have a good pair of short ones available. 'course the thought of swapping them has kept me from doing it already.



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Hugh MacKay

03-24-2004 15:26:39




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 Re: Need opinions on long axles on 1066 in reply to Mitchissippi, 03-24-2004 08:25:28  
Mitch: I can see what you mean about the gate posts, even a Super C with long axcles was quite hard on gate posts. Door posts was one of my neighbors favourites. I doubt if this change over is going to be a money maker for you. My 1066 had the same axle as yours and I ran axle duals for years. Inside one on 66" centers and about 4" between the two tires. My dual hub was still about 2" from end of axle, and that made the tractor over 10' wide. I ran duals all the time, never had them off. I should correct that, actually I ran it single the first year and pulled a 25' cultivator. After the first 900 hours the tires had so many bulges you couldn't drive it at road speed. I dualed it and put on 4 new tires, and those lasted 9,000 hours. My opinion 2 tires will not stand that much hp.

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Mitchissippi

03-24-2004 21:16:00




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 Re: Re: Need opinions on long axles on 1066 in reply to Hugh MacKay, 03-24-2004 15:26:39  
Mr. Hugh, I know what you mean about the duals. The boys here raising cotton with 8 and 12 row equipment run duals all thru the growing season. The impliments are just too heavy for singles. Here in the hills, the farms are small and a farmer may work several farms scattered over two counties. This means lots of road time for the tractors. You'll see a lot of tires that have most of the lugs worn off and the tire won't even be weather checked. I use my tractor mainly as a chore tractor on a hobby farm. I know I'm over-killing things a bit running the 1066, but I also do a little dirt work on the side. The 10 seems to be a perfect match for my 5 yard dirt pan on small grading jobs. Plus, the 1066 is cheap to purchase here. Maybe when I get used to the fact that I'm a lot wider than I used to be, I won't mind it as bad.

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Hugh MacKay

03-25-2004 03:13:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Need opinions on long axles on 1066 in reply to Mitchissippi, 03-24-2004 21:16:00  
Mitch: My main concern is you weren't going to be very well paid for your effort. Changing wheels on a 1066 is heavy enough work, then getting into that rear end and removing the bull gear and axle carrier. Not exactly fun work, unlss your 50 years younger than I. Even then I doubt it.

I have read what the others had to say about cutting. I never really liked that idea, however must admit I have no personal experience. I remember the first cut off job I ever saw. My next door neighbor cut them off a new Super C after the first time he hit the shed door post. He just did it with the torch and didn't even try to be neat. I think the saw would be best option, I still have concern about heat and its effect on the steel. Your axles aren't ordinary mild steel to begin with. That dirt scoop you use puts some quite heavy presures on your axles.

I did twist an axle on a Farmall 300 one time. It did not twist right off, just about 1/8 of a turn. I used the tractor that way for awhile and the axle started to split and break up so I found another axle. I talked once with an engineer that suggested the 300 did not have enough horse power to do that unless the axle was heat damaged.

Be careful, back about two years ago JD Humm who used to post here quite regularly, still does at Red Power. He told of a guy being killed in Kansas with one of these axles breaking off on an open station tractor. The tractor of course went down on one side and the wheel got him. I broke a couple of axles on a Deere forestry skidder, not personally operating my self. Those have ROPS thus operartor was protected. He did tell me it came down with an awful smash and the wheel both times landed on top of logging arch, Those axles were about same size as a 1066. You will get much the same kinds of axle loads with that dirt scoop as a forestry skidder.

Be careful, I would consult with an expert on metals before getting out the cutters. I would a lot sooner hear from you on forums, than hear there was a guy down south run down by his own tractor tire. I know guys are cutting these however, we also know there are a lot of tractors out there that never see much load. Lot of them don't do much either. If they did every 1066 in the country would have 30,000 hours on it by now.

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