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Jonathan Mirgon

03-28-2004 03:09:24




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does anyone know if rod bearing shims (copper) were used from the factor in addition to the bearings, or have the shims been added to mine to make up for worn bearings or a worn crank ?




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riverbend

03-28-2004 16:22:52




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 Re: rod bearing shims in reply to Jonathan Mirgon, 03-28-2004 03:09:24  
I found 0.002" copper shims under half of the bearing caps on my H. I had foolishly thought that they were there to shim up worn bearings.

For some reason, the crank appeared to be ground 0.022" undersized. Of course I had $70 worth of bearings installed before I discovered my mistake. Plastigage showed 0.004 - 0.005" on all the journals.

It was getting late in the year, I did not want to use Marty's plow truck (no brakes) again, the motor runs real slow even at WOT, the new CR figured out to 6.75:1, and it had been like that for at least 15 years, so I decided to put 0.001" copper shims behind all the shells.

Plastigage showed 0.002 - 0.003" across all the journals. Only one rod bearing looked to be a little tapered (~0.0005"). So far the oil pressure looks good, but it has been cold. If it blows up this summer, I will let you know.

If time and money were no object, the right way would have been to have the crank reground to 1/32" undersize. Reading Justin's post, I would be curious to know how much a machine shop could take off the rods and the block before causing problems with the way the bearings fit.

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justin

03-28-2004 08:26:39




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 Re: rod bearing shims in reply to Jonathan Mirgon, 03-28-2004 03:09:24  
Were these shims under the bearings on your H? If so, they were there to try to take up about 0.002 of excess clearance. This is a common repair that can actually cause some problems to the connecting rods. It would be best to have the connecting rods inspected by a machine shop, as the rod bearing holding surfaces could now be out of round. (I have been there before) If this was done on the main bearins, the block would need to be checked, and possibly line bored. (been there before also)

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Nebraska Cowman

03-28-2004 03:25:59




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 Re: rod bearing shims in reply to Jonathan Mirgon, 03-28-2004 03:09:24  
Pretty common to find them added. The farmall F20 and similar tractors used shims from the factory that were removed as the bearings wore. If you find shims under the bearing shell these were added by a mechanic.



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