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SGT K

06-02-2004 07:00:57




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I finally got to put my H to work since I fixed it all up this winter. I hooked the hay tedder to it and proudly went to the field. I usually pull the tedder with a 100 horse tractor, and I didn't think it really took any power to pull it. I figured I'd pull it in fourth, at about half throttle. HA! I finally settled on thrird at full throttle, and then it was a load!! I thought about going back for a bigger tractor, but I was having too much fun. I kept one eye on the road, hoping a neighbor would drive by and see my shiny new tractor bellering around the field, but since I wasn't broke down or looking for a place to relieve myself, nobody did. Ah but life is good, I wonder though what my old H thinks now she knows I'm not just keeping her around for her good looks.
Paul

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Allan

06-02-2004 07:09:03




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 Re: Bellering H in reply to SGT K, 06-02-2004 07:00:57  
Hi,

I used to use an H to cut 6 rows of dry beans.

This is done in the early morning usually before daylight and 6 four foot knives are run 2 or 3 inches under ground.

I'd pull it in 4th and the exhaust manifold would be cherry red. Fire would be coming out of the muffler standing 6" tall.

They sound sooooo good when they pull!

Allan



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riverbend

06-02-2004 15:42:54




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 Re: Re: Bellering H in reply to Allan, 06-02-2004 07:09:03  
Allen,

Can you discribe how the bean undercutters mounted to the H ? I don't imagine that you had a 3 point hitch. Did they mount on a cultivator frame ? I am trying about an acre of dry beans this year and would like to get out of pulling them all by hand.

Thanks

Greg



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Allan in NE

06-02-2004 18:12:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Bellering H in reply to riverbend, 06-02-2004 15:42:54  
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Greg,

I'll try. This makes about the millionth time I've wished that I had taken pictures of all that farm equipment.

Now, it is only in my minds eye as most of this old stuff that we all used to use has been cut up for scrap by many of these salvage yards and just is no more.

Think of a regular 6 row cultivator on the H.

Instead of cultivator shanks being the size you would imagine, they were huge "C" shaped things coming down from the cultivator frame (one for each row) with a 4 foot long, 6 inch wide knife attached (flat side down)to it's foot.

The knife was attached in such a way and was angled so that the total cut for that one knife amounted to about 12" as it slide thru the ground snapping the beans off along the row.

The problem with beans are the vines. The crop has to be handled when the dew is down so that the vines are "tough" and the pods will not shell out.

So, also at each "shank" were long 3/4" dividing rods to guide each cut row around the tires and to it's "windrow". Out in front of the whole she-bang were larger dividers, one for each tire.

The rear of the cultivator was not attached.

Later on we started using a rod weeder at the rear to make sure we got all the beans pulled.

Newer models nowadays just use a set of dividers out in front of the tractor, lift the beans with a rod weeder behind the tractor and dump 'em into an attached windower behind that.

This is a picture of an older front mounted model covering 8 30" rows. If you can imagine 6 of those rows in 22" spacing, and the whole thing squeezed up under the belly of an H. That was the first bean cutters.

I tried, :>)

Allan

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riverbend

06-02-2004 20:04:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Bellering H in reply to Allan in NE, 06-02-2004 18:12:06  
Thanks for the discription and picture. A picture is worth a thousand words, but back then you probably didn't have a digital camera... It must have been pretty crowded under that H. Were you windrowing two row together ?

Greg



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Allan

06-03-2004 07:20:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bellering H in reply to riverbend, 06-02-2004 20:04:58  
Greg,

Yes, the cutter would push two rows together, then following this, you would come along with a side delivery rake or a windrower and put 6 or 12 rows together in a big windrow prior to combining.

Like I say, the newest outfits do this all in one pass. Divide, lift, windrow.

Dry beans are so fragile that they will crack very easily. Therefore the combine has to be kept full and the cylinder speed has to be set very slow....under 200rpm.

Allan

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riverbend

06-03-2004 18:16:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bellering H in reply to Allan, 06-03-2004 07:20:31  
Cylinder speed is a problem on my PT '58 MH 60 (too many broken beans). It is like an old lathe with loose change gears. I'm as slow as I can go. They did have a rubber spike tooth cylinder that I have yet to find. So far we have been doing them by hand.

Your information is a lot of help. Thanks

Greg



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rustyfarmall

06-02-2004 08:20:46




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 Re: Re: Bellering H in reply to Allan, 06-02-2004 07:09:03  
When you hear an H working that hard you'd never guess that there are only 152 cubic inches making all that music, a modern tractor in the same H.P class can't even come close.



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