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Trying to tighten a new brake band on a '47 H

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Dave in CT

06-08-2004 19:10:32




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I can't bring a new brake band (from Steel Wheel Ranch - Agricultural and Industrial Products - Part number A-58344DCX - part name - BRAKE BAND ASSY) into the correct free-play range - it's too loose. In the archives there are a few postings with similar, if not identical problems, though I don't know if they are dealing with the same product. I'm done for the night so I thought I'd research the archives and appeal to those more experienced than I as to what the problem might be.

From the archives:

1) It seems that there are some products out there that are just the wrong length - I'm going to compare my right ('passenger') side band (which adjusts up nicely) to this new band and see if it is the same length.

2) Apparently the brake lever arms are different on the L and R hand sides so it's possible I've got a R on my L side - I'll see if I can see the part numbers through the paint tomorrow.

3) It's possible the 'actuator levers' that the band connects to inside the housing (the triangular assembly) can be reversed so I'll check this tomorrow as well.

When I disassembled these brakes, I was pretty careful. I only did one side at a time and made sure everything stayed in the same orientation when swapped or disassembled parts. Someone in an earlier post said, that doesn't mean the guy that went before you didn't put it in backwards so, we'll see. I also have both anti-rider bolts in place at the bottom of both housings and they are adjusted correctly - all the way in, then 1/2 turn out. The new band itself was bent in just the right shape, I don't have the problem of getting it to conform to the drum.

Any other ideas as to what could be causing so much free play in this new brake band? TIA

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Dave S

06-09-2004 20:11:20




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 Re: Trying to tighten a new brake band on a '47 H in reply to Dave in CT, 06-08-2004 19:10:32  
Check the cam lever inside the brake cover. The welds on both brakes on my H were broke loose and had to reweld them.



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Jim J

06-09-2004 07:27:28




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 Re: Trying to tighten a new brake band on a '47 H in reply to Dave in CT, 06-08-2004 19:10:32  
Turn the band around and put it in the other way.



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riverbend

06-08-2004 19:36:17




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 Re: Trying to tighten a new brake band on a '47 H in reply to Dave in CT, 06-08-2004 19:10:32  
I usually have trouble with #3.



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Wayne Swenson

06-08-2004 19:33:45




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 Re: Trying to tighten a new brake band on a '47 H in reply to Dave in CT, 06-08-2004 19:10:32  
Your brake drum could be worn so much that the band won't tighten up.
Most likely the band is too long.



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Dick Davis

06-09-2004 05:05:14




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 Re: Re: Trying to tighten a new brake band on a '4 in reply to Wayne Swenson, 06-08-2004 19:33:45  
My drums were so rough I had them turned to smooth and now suffer from a band that is too long. If these problems are common why doesn't some enterprising brake band maker offer undersized ( oversized?) bands for those that would really like to stop their projects. Couldn't thew use of thicker brake material riveted to the band solve the problem? I'd buy 'em. My nickel Dick Davis



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riverbend

06-09-2004 05:53:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Trying to tighten a new brake band on in reply to Dick Davis, 06-09-2004 05:05:14  
Dick,

Do you still have anyone around you who rebuilds brake shoes ? There is an outfit in Minneapolis that was able to put thicker linings on the shoes for my Norton. They do all kinds of brakes, including bands.



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Dick Davis

06-10-2004 02:11:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Trying to tighten a new brake band in reply to riverbend, 06-09-2004 05:53:19  
Thanks riverbend, I might try the place that rebuilt my clutch. They were old fashioned - good product, good price, on time, helpful explanations.



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