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Chad from MI

06-14-2004 04:46:33




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well we got it apart. Broke the head where the valve guide comes through put a huge cut in the valve sealing surface. Broke a brand new piston and we think it bent the rod. not to mention new head gasket and oil pan gasket and new oil and time putting it back together.
I just hope the shop covers it all. Dad was taking parts there today.
I will try and post a picture of the valve it was amasing how it looked all flattened and bent into a pretzel.

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El Toro

06-14-2004 14:47:04




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 Re: heart broken part #2 in reply to Chad from MI, 06-14-2004 04:46:33  
Hi Chad, The machine shop that I use my area all
the machinists in the shop are ASE certified. They have to be retested every 5 years to keep that ASE rating. Most of them have the Master
Machinist's rating. I was ASE certified in engine
repair. The shop foreman has been there 40 years.

This machine shop should pay for the
parts that were damaged or furnish new parts. They're suppose to check those valves to see if the keeper grooves are worn on used valves and discard them if they're worn and not use old keepers with new valves. They should look at the keepers after they're installed to be sure the keepers are seated. Good Luck, Hal

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rustyfarmall

06-14-2004 06:06:04




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 Re: heart broken part #2 in reply to Chad from MI, 06-14-2004 04:46:33  
It sounds to me as if the machine shop that did the work is going to be heartbroken also, at least their bank account should be a bit smaller after they buy you a new head and pay for the other damages done.



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Allan in NE

06-14-2004 06:10:24




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 Re: Re: heart broken part #2 in reply to rustyfarmall, 06-14-2004 06:06:04  
Rusty,

Yes, and if that machinist would just have taken the time to rap all those valves a few times with a hammer, he would have found that unseated keeper.

'Spose we were breakin' in a new fellea on this job? :>)

Allan



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rustyfarmall

06-14-2004 06:18:29




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 Re: Re: Re: heart broken part #2 in reply to Allan in NE, 06-14-2004 06:10:24  
Alan, that thought crossed my mind also, but I remember way back in auto mechanics training, the instructor made a big deal of driving home the fact that you should make sure those keepers were seated. Maybe it's different today.



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Chad from MI

06-14-2004 06:34:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: heart broken part #2 in reply to rustyfarmall, 06-14-2004 06:18:29  
are you guys saying when I get the head back if it can be repaired or a new one I should take a brass hammer and rap on the valves a few times to make sure there ok?
Chad



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Allan in NE

06-14-2004 06:38:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: heart broken part #2 in reply to Chad from MI, 06-14-2004 06:34:31  
Hi Chad,

Yes, the machinist should do this as a matter of course.

But still, I always beat the livin' tar out of them to make absoluly sure that they are stuck whenever I get a head back from a shop just to be on the safe side.

Hope your Dad gets along with 'em okay when he takes the parts in.

Allan



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