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RedandGreen

06-17-2004 22:32:09




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Was wondering can a farmall H run a thrashing machine and is the belt speed fast enough for not only a thrasher but forage blowers and other higher speed implements?




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vern MN

06-19-2004 21:11:46




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 Re: Can a farmall H run a thrasher? and question a in reply to RedandGreen, 06-17-2004 22:32:09  
Yes it can. My dad had a 28 inch McCormick Deering and used a 15-30 and later used an M. The one year the M boke the pulley shaft and he put the H on it. The H had been overhauled a few years before and had the aluminum pistons. It handled the machine good. He had tried it back before he had the M, and at that time the H had the original cast pistons and it was not able to keep the rpms up.

There always were those who loved to pitch and see how the tractor could take it. The M could handle anything that was pitched, even the cross way bundles.
Pulley rpm can be adjusted with pully dia. He used a 12 inch.

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Jimmy King

06-19-2004 03:34:50




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 Re: Can a farmall H run a thrasher? and question a in reply to RedandGreen, 06-17-2004 22:32:09  
When I was a kid we pulled a thrasher for days on end with an H, I am guessing it was a 22inch. IHC We thrashed oats, barley,wheat, and orchard grass. fed the oats and barley to out dairy cows. wheat and orchard grass for cash crop. Dad was always the one that adj. the thrasher him and my Uncle were the only ones that fed it. From the time I was big enought ( use that term loosely ) I drove a bundle wagon we always used three wagons, that way there was always one at the thrasher. I have seen them shut down and move if the wind shifted.

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John_N

06-18-2004 10:02:08




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 Re: Can a farmall H run a thrasher? and question a in reply to RedandGreen, 06-17-2004 22:32:09  
Here are the specs: For an IHC 22x38 with a hand feed and folding stacker: 16 hp.

With a wind stacker, self feeder, and weigher, it says "McCormick-Deering 10-20", which was 21.6 belt hp.

On the 28x46, those went up to 22 HP and "McCormick-Deering 15-30", which is 32.86 BHP.

The cylinder RPM depends on the belt speed of the tractor and on the diameter of the pulley on the tractor. Which one you need for a thresher varied with the crop; both those threshers had an 8 1/2" face main drive pulley; available in 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 14, and 15 inch diameters. You selected the proper drive pulley based on the tractor; of course different sizes were available there as well. Your IHC dealer could no doubt assist you in making the proper selection for your crop and tractor; that expertise is now hard to locate.

Tractors had different belt speeds. Here is a selection available to me right now, and the column format will probably be mangled:

tractor BFM pulley RPM

W-12 BFM: 2730 RPM: 787
10-20 BFM: 2575 RPM: 645
W-30 BFM: 2695 RPM: 675
W-40 BFM: 2627 RPM: 599
WD-40 BFM: 2580 RPM: 588
Super A BFM: 2574 (8 1/2") RPM: 1157
F-300 BFM: 2759 (9 3/4") RPM: 1081 (max @ full load)

The HP requirements for a thresher are quite modest; since they were stationery, you don't have a loss for moving anything. The capacity was likewise low, compared to more modern machines. It was a slower-paced time.

You could run a 20" thresher with a Super-A; an H would be easy. Getting the thresher tuned to work right is a skill. Hopefully, someone who knows how can help you learn.

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LAW/MN

06-18-2004 06:29:57




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 Re: Can a farmall H run a thrasher? and question a in reply to RedandGreen, 06-17-2004 22:32:09  
On our dairy farm in the fifties, we ran a 22" Oliver Red River Special threshing machine, Papec ensilage cutter, latter ensilage blower and 12" hammer mill with a 1942 Farmall H. I would recommend a rockwood pulley on the tractor, improves belt performance and make sure the governer is responsive and attains the rated rpm
of the engine. This is imperative for maximum
power and machine performance.

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Bob M

06-18-2004 06:21:56




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 Re: Can a farmall H run a thrasher? and question a in reply to RedandGreen, 06-17-2004 22:32:09  
We pull a 20"(?) McCormick with a couple different H's at our show every August. The H's handle the load just fine - and sound great doing it!



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gene b

06-18-2004 02:28:35




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 Re: Can a farmall H run a thrasher? and question a in reply to RedandGreen, 06-17-2004 22:32:09  
You will need the big belt pulley. This also depends on the size of the pulley on the thresher but usally you need the big one on the tractor. F-20s had a large pulley and you have more horses than they did but over time pulleys were changed on threshers to let newer tractors have enough belt speed. Good threshing will be a lot of fun.



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Will Sick

06-17-2004 23:05:03




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 Re: Can a farmall H run a thrasher? and question a in reply to RedandGreen, 06-17-2004 22:32:09  
You can pull a 20 inch thrash machine with an H. The pully size on the implement and the tractor determines the right speed.It also depends on the shape that the engine is in on the H. Some of them were equipped with domed pistons and other hop up equipment when they were over hauled.



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