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Looked at a 1066 today-- what do y'all think?

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Darren in TN

06-26-2004 14:00:12




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Howdy, folks.

I talked with an old fellow about his 1066 today. The paint was faded and there was some rust, but it was otherwise pretty sound. New injection pump and new starter. Tractor has a cab and duals. He really seemed interested in selling it to me-- said he'd throw in an AC 4-18 plow to sweeten the deal. The only obvious damage was a bunged-up front tire (which he has a replacement for that he's including) and a small hunk of metal tore off the front axle where the 'steering limit' is (that's what he called it.) The axle looked like it could be welded up really easily. So I have two questions for you guys. First, is there any good way to check for damage due to cavitation? Second, assuming nothing is wrong with it, what would you guess it was worth?

Thanks again, guys.
Darren

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Hugh MacKay

06-27-2004 14:12:05




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 Re: Looked at a 1066 today-- what do y'all think? in reply to Darren in TN, 06-26-2004 14:00:12  
Darren: Unless I had 400-500 acres to work I wouldn't touch a 1066. By now those things could be a money pit. If things start going wrong, the only difference between 1066 and a new 125 hp tractor is with 1066 you wouldn't need to make next months payment. The cost however will be the same if some of the major components start going.



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Darren in TN

06-27-2004 16:46:17




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 Re: Re: Looked at a 1066 today-- what do y'all thi in reply to Hugh MacKay, 06-27-2004 14:12:05  

Hugh,
I really like that tractor, but you're right about my need for it-- with our small acreage I need that tractor like I need a hole in my head. You're right about the money-pit part, too. I'd reckon that one or two big problems could easily cost me more than the tractor itself.

Take care,
Darren



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Hugh MacKay

06-27-2004 17:30:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Looked at a 1066 today-- what do y'all in reply to Darren in TN, 06-27-2004 16:46:17  
Darren: Have a little story for you. 40 years ago when 460 and 560 were still quite large tractors. My dad had a 300, 130, 560D and a Cockshutt 540. A friend of my dad drove in yard one day. This guy owned a 65 acre farm beef cow-calf and his tractor was a 350 Utility. 90% of his income came from a dump truck of which he was owner operator.

He was looking for ways to cut down his haying time, thus not missing out on trucking. He asked my dad what he thought about a SA, 100 or 130 for raking hay, hauling bales, gardening, etc. 350 could do mowing and baling. He already had a C-28 fast hitch mower for the 350. My dad advised him the offset tractor would be just great for his need.

When he got out shopping for a used tractor he found as it still is today, those used big tractors were less money than the small ones. What he came home with was a Farmall 460 that had been used in the bush hauling logs for about 5 years. That 460 sat around their property until about 1998, something broke down most of the time. They had the money to fix it, probably could have written a check for a new replacment anytime in the past 40 years. The 460 became a money pit and he was unwilling to spend the money to make it right or get rid of it.

North America is littered with old big tractors sitting in someone's back 40, broke down and either unwilling or unable to spend the money to put them in shape. You see guys on here saying; I bought the 806, 1066, 1486, etc. My guess is that 10 years from now 40% of them will be sitting in the bush behind the barn. The sad part is it has finincially hurt a lot of people. Nothing wrong with those big tractors if you have a use for them. Those who have a use usually also have the cash flow to pay the repair bills.

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Darren in TN

06-27-2004 21:52:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Looked at a 1066 today-- what do y in reply to Hugh MacKay, 06-27-2004 17:30:35  

I see a lot of that type of thing around here, too, Hugh. The fellow selling that 1066 is an old farmer. I met him at a yard sale my wife and I were walking through and I just had to ask that question that drives her nuts: "Have y'all got any Farmall or IH stuff you're looking to sell?" Well, that started a 45 minute conversation with the nicest old farmer I've talked to in a while. Great guy. His story was that he got out of farming when he couldn't get good help anymore, and the 1066 was the last tractor he bought. According to him all it does anymore is bush-hog the goat pasture (which looked to be about ten acres) with a 7-foot bush-hog. Serious overkill to say the least, and that new starter and injection pump couldn't have been cheap. I'm very happy with our little Super A, and when I find help for it it'll probably be in the form of one of the IH utilities or a MF 135, etc. But that's why I post on here-- guys like you help keep me sane.

You have a good one, Hugh.
Darren

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Hugh MacKay

06-27-2004 21:58:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Looked at a 1066 today-- what in reply to Darren in TN, 06-27-2004 21:52:08  
Darren: The old guy with the 460 passed away about 96, son fooled with it couple of years and it was gone, replaced by a 444 diesel.



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hagan

06-26-2004 16:48:29




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 Re: Looked at a 1066 today-- what do y'all think? in reply to Darren in TN, 06-26-2004 14:00:12  
look for a water filter on it. If it has one ask him how often he changed the filter and coolant. changing the filter helps but does not solve the whole problem. I had a 1086 and always changed the fliter annualy and coolant every 2nd year and it had cavatation problems when it was 15 yrs old and 7000 hours.
No sure way exept tear the engine apart. It also has -O-rings around the sleeves that can start to seep later on in life.
If it is like my older neighbors 1066 he purchased used 6 years ago he has never changed his filter and I have warned him of problems but some folks do not beleive it.

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Redman

06-27-2004 09:31:35




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 Re: Re: Looked at a 1066 today-- what do y'all thi in reply to hagan, 06-26-2004 16:48:29  
a filter charge can actually be a bad thing if the coolant does not need a charge,it goes both ways.
we use dip strips to tell when they need a charge,and when they do we change the filter then run it awhile and dip it again to make sure it was enough.
you can also get bottles of coolant charge at NAPA that does the same thing as the pill in the water filter.



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Darren in TN

06-26-2004 20:21:47




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 Re: Re: Looked at a 1066 today-- what do y'all thi in reply to hagan, 06-26-2004 16:48:29  

Hagan,
Thanks for the advice. Do you know if cavitation was a problem only when the tractors were run, or if it would have been a problem in a tractor that sat with the same coolant in it for some years? This one I'm looking at has only been used to bush-hog a goat pasture for many years.

Thanks again,
Darren



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