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Farmall H again again(long post, im desperate)

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Farm w/Junk

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Hi guys. This tractor is driving me nuts. Well I decided it must be a carb problem. If you havent read any of my previous posts here it goes. I overhauled my 1946 H this winter. New rings, rod bearings and had carb rebuilt. I had the distributer off to paint and I thought it was off time so I got that in time very close to what it should be and tryed starting it and it popped right off. I drove it around for 30 min. and got carb set to where it would idle down and you could open it up and it would run good. TRhen I shut it off and went to restart it and it wont start. It wouldnt even pop, with or without choke. So I screwed the bottom (idle?) needle in a little from where I had it set. Now it popped a little and acted like it wanted to start but wouldnt take off, and I needed to choke it for it to pop. Also after I crank the tractor over it dripos from the bottom screw, why is this? It never did this before. What could be wrong in carb? Please help, need to have running by the 15th for my 4H project judging. Thanks
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 Re: Farmall H again again(long post, im desperate) in reply to Farm w/Junk, 07-09-2004 08:23:55  
Dear Farm with Junk;

Suggestion:

Since this is a 4-H project, tell you club leader that you are having problems with your "H". Since this is a 4-H group at least one of the parents is mechanically inclined. Ask for help.

Second suggestion: Once you are in contact with the person designated to help, explain the problem, then keep you mouth shut.

I've read and reread you post. You keep hitting on the carb. There are other things that can affect the engine's operation.

Sorry, just old, I was a kid once. I use to know everything, now I know nothing.

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 Re: Farmall H again again(long post, im desperate) in reply to Farm w/Junk, 07-09-2004 08:23:55  
Check the basics before tearing that thing apart. (If you haven't already!)

The engine needs 4 things, spark, fuel, and compression, and timing. If it ran earlier, and the bolts on the distributor are tight, timing is not likely to be the problem. If it ran earlier, sudden loss of compression is not likely the problem, either.

Check to see if you have a good hot (blue, not red) spark at each plug. If not, dig into the distributor and find out why. (Condenser, points, rotor, cap, wires, connections, etc.)

Make sure gas is getting TO the carb BEFORE you start taking it apart! Loosen the fuel line at the carb and see if fuel runs out. If not, then you're either out of fuel (Don't laugh, it's happened to lots of folks who wont admit it!) or something is plugged shut. If you have fuel, but no fuel flow, check the valve under the tank and the sediment bowl and screen under the tank. If the tank has rust or debris in it, you may have to remove the valve assembly to get it un-plugged.

If you have fuel flow, drain the carb, re-set the screws to specs, and give it a try. If that doesn't do it, you may have to yank the carb and open it.

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 Re: Farmall H again again(long post, im desperate) in reply to Farm w/Junk, 07-09-2004 08:23:55  
Just a thought, is there anything restricting
the exhaust?



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 Re: Farmall H again again(long post, im desperate) in reply to Farm w/Junk, 07-09-2004 08:23:55  
Same answer I gave earlier this week? Provided the coil and condensor are good, you have a stuck float or you need a new needle and seat. Drain the carb and try to start it without choking. It is NOT going to start once gas starts dripping out. Fix that problem and it should work. Trying to make it start by adjusting the mixture or idle screw will have little, if any, effect. When you get it running, adjust the carb by turning the main jet in until it stumbles, out until smooth, maybe an additional 1/4-1/2 turn, do the same with the idle, and don't fiddle with the adjustments any more. If you don't have time to fix the carb right, shut off the gas every time you shut the engine off.

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 Re: Farmall H again again(long post, im desperate) in reply to Farm w/Junk, 07-09-2004 08:23:55  
Check the ignition system. See if you have spark - weak spark. Double check the engine timing. The distributor off a couple of degrees will make a big difference. Double check the gear timing on the distributor to distributor drive gear. One tooth off will make a big differnce.

Probably not much of a problem to fix. Just finding the source. Since this is a 4H project. Let the project set for a day or two and think about the problem. Have a tall cool soft drink. Good luck.

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 Re: Re: Farmall H again again(long post, im desper in reply to gene, 07-09-2004 10:03:31  
Hi thanks for replying, what is the best way to check the timing of the distributor and gear drive? Thanks
Matt



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 Re: Farmall H again again(long post, im desperate) in reply to Farm w/Junk, 07-09-2004 08:23:55  
Is there any chance you could have a carburetor full of water? Drain the carburetor, empty the sediment bowl under the tank and then try to start it.

The bottom needle is the high speed fuel mixture screw. Try setting both mixture screws on the carburetor about one and one-half turns out from the fully seated position. This should be a good starting point and the engine should start and run. When it is running and warm you can fine-tune these adjustments.

Does it drip continuously or just a little while after you have tried to start it? I have had it happen when I have tried to start an engine and choked it (and it failed to start) that gas dripped from the bottom of the carburetor for a little bit. If it is dripping continuously, it could be coming from a float setting that is too high, foreign material in the needle and seat preventing sealing or gas in the float from a leak causing it to settle in the bowl opening the needle and seat.

Since it is popping when you choke it, this would indicate that it needs more fuel to start, meaning the carburetor is set too lean.

This should help. If not, post back.

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