TRACTOR PARTS Allis Chalmers Case & David Brown Farmall & International Ferguson Ford & New Holland John Deere Massey Ferguson Massey Harris Minneapolis Moline Oliver & Cockshutt Kubota / Yanmar

TRACTOR MANUALS

Allis Chalmers	Case	Farmall IH	Ford 8N,9N,2N	Ford
Ferguson	John Deere	Massey Ferguson	Minn. Moline	Oliver

Farmall & IHC Tractors Discussion Forum

WWII Era Farmalls

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register

Author

Hope Farmer

07-25-2004 16:30:48

Report to Moderator

I assume (dangerous I know) that Farmall/IH continued to produce farm tractors during the war, although I don't see many '41 -'45 vintage tractors on the market. Did Farmall/IH produce their full line of equipment during the war? Any quality problems with the equipment they did produce during the war?

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Marv in Iowa

07-26-2004 11:08:07

Report to Moderator

Re: WWII Era Farmalls in reply to Hope Farmer, 07-25-2004 16:30:48

One more story. I have a neighbor that is currently looking for a German built Bosch diesel injector pump that was original equipment for some of the early M Diesels. He claims that after WWI broke out, the Bosch pumps were not availably and IHC came out with their own pump. He said that the German Bosch pumps would use one gallon of fuel per hour but the IHC pump was burn 1.5 gallons pe hour.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Ray M41

07-26-2004 07:05:29

Report to Moderator

Re: WWII Era Farmalls in reply to Hope Farmer, 07-25-2004 16:30:48

My dad's H

Farmall H

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Sid

07-26-2004 03:21:50

Report to Moderator

Re: WWII Era Farmalls in reply to Hope Farmer, 07-25-2004 16:30:48

My 1943 H (124694)had steel cooling fins in the radiator. The tractor had been out in the weather for a number of years before I got it and a lot of the fins had rusted away. Had to replace it.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Jim Becker

07-25-2004 21:05:17

Report to Moderator

Re: WWII Era Farmalls in reply to Hope Farmer, 07-25-2004 16:30:48

There were definite cutbacks in numbers and materials during the war. 1943 was the worst year for this as the A/B models were shut down completely and the other models were severely restricted. I think that on '43 you got tractors on steel period. Other years used the low grade tires. The cast shift balls were a substitution to save rubber. I believe a lot of the war models were hand crank too.

The cylinder for the pneumatic lift changed from brass to porcelized steel. I believe thas was because of the war material shortages.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Roger A. ny

07-26-2004 06:57:18

Report to Moderator

Re: Re: WWII Era Farmalls in reply to Jim Becker, 07-25-2004 21:05:17

Jim, Not all '43 Farmalls came on steel. My Dad bought a 1943 Farmall H sn 137049 that came on 9x38 rear rubber and rubber on the front. My Dad said that the tires were artificial rubber and he had to be really careful with them. I was pretty young when that tractor was delivered but I remeber it quite well. It came with a muffler as extra equipment at a cost of $3 dollars and he sent it back as he said he would not pay that amount for a muffler. After all his 10-20 didn't have a muffler and he didn't see why this tractor needed one. After three days days of use he went and paid for the muffler and installed it. His ears stopped ringing in a few days. Roger

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Jim Becker

07-26-2004 20:08:22

Report to Moderator

Re: Re: Re: WWII Era Farmalls in reply to Roger A. ny, 07-26-2004 06:57:18

I'm not surprised at that. Those sorts of things probably kept changing as the supply shortage situation changed.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Jim Becker

07-25-2004 21:02:44

Report to Moderator

Re: WWII Era Farmalls in reply to Hope Farmer, 07-25-2004 16:30:48

The cylinder for the pneumatic lift changed from brass to porcelized steel. I believe thas was because of the war material shortages.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

LAW/MN

07-25-2004 20:36:12

Report to Moderator

Re: WWII Era Farmalls in reply to Hope Farmer, 07-25-2004 16:30:48

My grandfather purchased a new H on steel in Oct '42.He waited for it nearly a year. Sold a perfectly good '40 A John Deere on rubber for 2.5X what the H cost new. Ceiling price on new items but used were fair game for what every price you could get. Our neighbor bought a '40 H on cut down rubber for $2000 in 1943 and was offered more money for it after the sale, sold it in 1944. My father finally got permission from our local ration board to cut down our H and install 2 used and 2 new tires in 1944. I grew up with this tractor and it is still in the family. The only problem I remember was with the magneto,wet weather
it would reverse direction at cranking and I think
the shed on our farm still has the dent in the roof where the crank flew and hit. I was not allowed to
crank it until the IHC magneto was exchanged for
an American Bosch. No problems after that.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

CNKS

07-25-2004 18:29:11

Report to Moderator

Re: WWII Era Farmalls in reply to Hope Farmer, 07-25-2004 16:30:48

Production was definitely reduced, but not stopped. It apparantly affected the smaller tractors more. In 1943 only 5 B's and 105 A's were produced. But, they produced 21000 H's and only 4800 M's in the same year -- 1943 was the lowest production year. I hadn't heard of the tires, many were on steel. The lower production numbers of the A and B may have been due to IH not making steel wheels for those tractors. No quality problems that I have heard of.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Dave BN

07-25-2004 18:23:00

Report to Moderator

Re: WWII Era Farmalls in reply to Hope Farmer, 07-25-2004 16:30:48

Many of IH's factories changed over to war production. A limited number of tractors etc were made as farmers still had to produce food, and with less help, as many young men were gone off to the service. The small tractor line was stopped for all of 1943 I think and part of 1942 and 1944. My BN is a 1944 and some of the castings are very rough. I suspect they were using worn out molds or being less picky in final inspection. Dave.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Hugh MacKay

07-25-2004 17:23:09

Report to Moderator

Re: WWII Era Farmalls in reply to Hope Farmer, 07-25-2004 16:30:48

My dad purchased a new W4 in 1942, and that tractor was around our farm until replaced by an H in 1951. Dad had originally wanted an H in 42, but would had to have waited some time. Since he was running a Fordson at the time, W4 looked very good. The W4 came on rear steel and he was unable to get tires until after the war. He bought rims with the tractor.

He said about the W4," It actually improved the life of his team of horses, as they no longer had to tow start the Fordson." He now (in 1942) had a tractor that would share work with the team rather than create work for them. He said the Fordson created more work than it did.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Farmer Bob

07-25-2004 16:49:58

Report to Moderator

Re: WWII Era Farmalls in reply to Hope Farmer, 07-25-2004 16:30:48

One thing for sure was that those tractors produced during the war were equipped with inferior rubber tires. Along with the original manual for one of my A's was a sheet cautioning the original buyer to avoid excessive slipping of the tires as they would wear prematurily due to the low quality rubber they were made of. The good rubber went into the tires for different war machines I suspect. Another reason for the steel gear shift knobs during the war years.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Mark

07-25-2004 18:46:38

Report to Moderator

Re: Re: WWII Era Farmalls in reply to Farmer Bob, 07-25-2004 16:49:58

Did it really state "low quality"? I could not even imagine a manufacturer today making such a statement. Different world, different time

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Farmer Bob

07-25-2004 20:50:35

Report to Moderator

Re: Re: Re: WWII Era Farmalls in reply to Mark, 07-25-2004 18:46:38

Actually it said War Quality and here is the article.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Bill

07-26-2004 07:28:12

Report to Moderator

Re: Re: Re: Re: WWII Era Farmalls in reply to Farmer Bob, 07-25-2004 20:50:35

Most of those tires may of been bad but I own a h with a set of those tires still on,They are in bad shape now but, Then after 60 years thats not a bad record, tractor drove very little on black top over the years. Bill

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Jeff In Ontario

07-25-2004 16:46:24

Report to Moderator

Re: WWII Era Farmalls in reply to Hope Farmer, 07-25-2004 16:30:48

They did produce quite a few during the war, some evidences were the cast shifter knobs, and steel wheels as most rubber was diverted to the war effort. You can check on #'s produced in the serial # column to the left of the screen. I'm not aware of any problems during that era. ---Jeff

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

[Options] [Printer Friendly] [Posting Help] [Return to Forum] [Log in to Reply]

TRACTOR PARTS	TRACTOR MANUALS

We sell tractor parts! We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home | Forums

Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.
All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy