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140 Hitch Choice Questions

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NCbill

08-06-2004 13:20:02




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Going to look at a 1968 or 1969 vintage Farmall 140 with Woods 59" mower this weekend. The tractor once had a one point hitch, cultivators and fertilizer attachments, but the present owner sold them. What is easier and more practical: 1) Rig this tractor up like a Super A at the rear with two lift arms and chains, 2) Install a used one point hitch assembly ,or 3) Install a three point hitch kit? I'm not restoration minded and just want to use the tractor for gardening activities (turning plow, disk harrow and rear cultivators).

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Haas

08-06-2004 18:32:53




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 Re: 140 Hitch Choice Questions in reply to NCbill, 08-06-2004 13:20:02  
I had a 140 with Woods L59 mower for years. I had a 3 point hitch on it. The 3 point hitch works, but is not real functional. Capacity and lift range are limited. It will lift a max of 500 lbs. If the arms for the one point are still on there and it has the helper spring, it might lift more. If you are going to use PTO implements, remember the PTO is offset and may interfer with hitch parts. I never tried to plow with the 3 point. I used a disk, a pond scoop and a carry all. I think it would work ok with a rear cultivator. Also, no drawbar with the 3 point, you have to use a cross bar in the hitch arms. I had a drawbar made that connected to the hitch arms and the top link so I did not have to contend with the rotation of the cross bar. I did plow my garden once a year, but I used the regular Super A type mounted plow, for which the mower had to be removed. You can use the 3 point while the mower is on the tractor, but some implements such as a plow or cultivator would not work with it on there. That mower is heavy and a chore to take off and put on. I rigged a dolly for mine so I could support the rear with the dolly and the front rested on the gage wheels. You could take the mower loose and with the dolly roll it out from under the tractor. To plow, you are still left with the heavy job of removing the idler pulley/mower pusher bracket that is bolted to the final drives with 6 size 3/4 inch cap screws. I agree with Hugh, you should not even consider the one point hitch with the Woods mower. You can leave the hitch on there with the Woods, but it won't be functional unless you take the mower off. If you don't mind some heavy change out work, the 3 point system will work for you.

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CNKS

08-06-2004 18:11:11




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 Re: 140 Hitch Choice Questions in reply to NCbill, 08-06-2004 13:20:02  
As Hugh said, with the mower you are going to have a dedicated mower tractor. You will need another tractor to do the other things. I have a Super A set up the way Hugh does. I have no desire to change it.



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Hugh MacKay

08-06-2004 18:00:59




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 Re: 140 Hitch Choice Questions in reply to NCbill, 08-06-2004 13:20:02  
bill: Did the present owner say why he sold those items? I installed a Woods belly mower on my Super A this spring. My Super A had a 1 point fast hitch, and while it would have been possible to install the mower with the hitch on there, I could see the hitch would not be very functional. For that reason I removed the fast hitch and put the standard drawbar back on tractor.

I will add that I don't think you will change from mower to nonmower attachments very often. The mower belts are such that when you get them aligned, you will be content to leave it on for the entire grass season. From that NC in your handle I suspect that season does not end.

In my case I have two other tractors with 1 point fast hitch. I also have a 3 point whereby I can drop the pull bar of the fast hitch, and install. I rarely use the 3 point as I find the 1 point far superior for for plowing, disking, cultivating, etc.

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NCBill

08-06-2004 19:13:26




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 Re: 140 Hitch Choice Questions in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-06-2004 18:00:59  
Hugh, the owner sold the one point hitch, fertilizer works and cultivators for $800 and used the money to pay for the Woods mower. I agree with your thinking and am leaning towards having two tractors. The decision is easy, it's convincing my wife to let me have the second check for the second tractor that will be the hard part.

I need a tractor like I need another hole in my head, but I'm going to be 52 this year and I guess it is a way of remembering my dear dad and my eastern nc childhood. On another subject, Hugh, my marketing "ears" perked up with your comment on another post regarding IH's market share slippage in the 1950's as a result of their sticking with their fast hitch technology a bit too long. IMHO fast hitch is a superior techology, but apparently like so many other products, the first one with critical mass (implement sales numbers) wins the market much like Windows and VHS format won their markets. It's too bad because IH's tractors in the 1950's were great stuff compared to the JDs two cylinder technology, Case's distribution fell short of IH's dealer network and Ford did not have big tractors.

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Hugh MacKay

08-06-2004 20:24:57




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 Re: 140 Hitch Choice Questions in reply to NCBill, 08-06-2004 19:13:26  
bill: Well said, that road of evolution has sometimes been a painful one. Problem is guess who paid for Corperate America's chewing the rag over their patent rights.

From the 8 to 10 major manfacturers around in the 1950's and their decendants, I have yet to see what I call the perfect tractor. I also have never seen a tractor that didn't have at least one feature I liked. They came close to the perfect tractor in the 60s and 70s.

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