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LW Hiway

08-08-2004 06:23:18




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Last night I finished installing a new Zenith carb and an electronic ignition to replace the breaker set, new plugs and wires and a strainer bowl. With the first beer of the day at 11pm cst and my old Uncle Loyld sitting in a chair watching on in the dark, I turned on the gas and hit the switch. It started right up and purred as it always has.

But now that I look closer at the carb linkages and the throttle to governor linkage, I notice that the lever on the governor is loose and not transmitting movement to the cross-block shaft to the carb. I'm thinking that after 52 years of daily constant use things may be finally starting to wear out. Springs on the flyweights etc. (can't imagine why, I still fell kinda good)

Is there a service manual to be suggested for this available?

I just won't pull it down blind. But will open it with the book.

I'll start with making new rods to tighten up the play on the controls and wait for a response.

By the way, this SA has supported a truck patch of 3 to 15 acres a year as well as a working farm since the day it was bought. Can't imagine how many miles of rows it's pulled and how many miles of rows it's scratched since it was bought. A testimonial of sorts.

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LW Hiway

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LW Hiway

08-08-2004 18:04:36




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 Thanks Milan in reply to Milan, 08-08-2004 12:35:45  
Just a short note of thanks for the response with the links. I'm sure these guys will have more items that I'll not be able to refuse.

LW



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Milan

08-08-2004 12:42:01




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 Re: Super A governor in reply to Milan, 08-08-2004 12:35:45  
For some reason, the link for my pics didn't post.

Here it is.



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ffolkes

08-08-2004 07:41:58




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 Re: Super A governor in reply to LW Hiway, 08-08-2004 06:23:18  
Sounds very similar to the problem I have. I'm not familiar with engine terminology...is the cross-block shaft the cast piece that, well, crosses the block and links to the rod that goes to the carb?

My BN wasn't used daily, but if you average it out, I'd imagine it was used the equivalent of once a week for the past 67 years. My grandfather bought it brand new in 1937.



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LW Hiway

08-08-2004 10:48:04




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 Re: Super A governor in reply to ffolkes, 08-08-2004 07:41:58  
Morning ffolks,

That's correct, just thought that would be an easier way of describing it. After having a few more cups of coffee since I first posted and traveling on the e-net, I'm sure that if I'm off next weekend that I'll tear into it,(gingerly)with the help of a parts book or manual if they get here in time. If'n they don't? Gingerly will be the word. Shouldn't be too much of a stretch.

I'll keep this post going weekly with updated progress and such.

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ffolkes

08-08-2004 11:05:14




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 Question for everyone... in reply to LW Hiway, 08-08-2004 10:48:04  
Hello-

If I could find my @#$%! faux "service manual," I could help us both out. A few years ago I got one of those aftermarket service manuals, and while it was cheap, and covered pretty much every letter series tractor, it did have a lot of useful diagrams. I've been told the real IH service manuals are much better. I'm assuming you ordered the reproduction of the "real" IH one.

My lever is really loose - it wiggles all around, like its just waiting to fall off or something. When I hold the cross-block shaft (or whatever it's called) there's about 1/4" play between that and the lever on the governor.

Here's my question to everyone that reads this:

Is this normal? Does your governor exhibit similar characteristics?

If not, I too will carefully take it apart; otherwise I'll leave it alone.

Thanks.

ffolkes

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Bob

08-08-2004 13:05:23




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 Re: Question for everyone... in reply to ffolkes, 08-08-2004 11:05:14  
The lever on the governor and the lever on the other side of the engine are NOT directly connected inside the governor... each lever is hooked to the opposite end of the (internal) governor spring, so a certain amount of free travel between the two levers is normal.

If the governor is responsive, it's probably OK, but if the bushings are REALLY LOOSE. governor response will suffer, and it's time for a rebuild.

The thrust bearing in these governors wears, and if it fails, the governor fork will be damaged.

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LW Hiway

08-08-2004 17:41:29




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 Re: Question for everyone... in reply to Bob, 08-08-2004 13:05:23  
The throttle response has been pitiful for a few years now. The play is such that I have an idle with the hand lever pulled back and will only run up after pushing full forward and then the engine speed is barely 60 to 70% of what it should be by checking rpm.

I'll pick up bearings and such this and next week.

Thanks for that info Mr. Bob, that is most of what I was thinking.

ffolks: I'd appreciate any furthur material you may find. If you would just send me an E to the address included. I'm looking for manuals, just havn't ordered yet.

I pulled mine apart this afternoon and it is as basic as it can be. I've worked on others from the late 18's thru 1939 with other industrial engines, steam, gas, and such. I've been involved in different restorations for the last 38 years and this looks straight forward. Simple but just needing a bit more care for exactness.

We'll get it done.

thanks Hiway

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Bob

08-08-2004 18:18:24




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 Re: Question for everyone... in reply to LW Hiway, 08-08-2004 17:41:29  
You can view a parts breakdown at the Cub collector's website.



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ffolkes

08-09-2004 11:00:56




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 Re: Question for everyone... in reply to Bob, 08-08-2004 18:18:24  
Thanks! I find that information very useful.

ffolkes



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