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Allan in NE

09-05-2004 04:21:45




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Mornin'

I stumbled across this one this morning. Take a look at that front end! :>)

Allan




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John M

09-05-2004 10:05:51




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 Re: Takes all kinds in reply to Allan in NE, 09-05-2004 04:21:45  
Ya know,it never amazes me at how people "poke fun" and someones way of engineering something. Iwould really hate to post some pics of things we used to have to do just to get by on.(No ill will intended)



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Allan in NE

09-05-2004 07:59:31




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 Re: Takes all kinds in reply to Allan in NE, 09-05-2004 04:21:45  
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And the hits just keep a rollin'



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hagan

09-05-2004 07:33:08




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 Re: Takes all kinds in reply to Allan in NE, 09-05-2004 04:21:45  
I remember when I was a kid and dad had a 300 Farmall it had no stop bolt and if you ran the front wheels around like that they did not shimmy going down the road. It had a narrow front end though. As I remember it was not hard to spin one around as the turning brake and reverse half way and then a little manual labor then spinning around some more.
One morning I saw dad sitting on it turning it around correctly so he could use the tow hitch on it.

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Chris Brown

09-05-2004 07:25:32




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 Re: Takes all kinds in reply to Allan in NE, 09-05-2004 04:21:45  
What's that strap that bolts under the brake housing and goes to the rear?



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Allan in NE

09-05-2004 07:39:25




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 Re: Takes all kinds in reply to Chris Brown, 09-05-2004 07:25:32  
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Oh yes, that.

Another wonderment of shade tree engineering.

Aw, I jest; this stuff just tickles me tho. :>)
Allan



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JBlavl

09-07-2004 08:10:14




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 Re: Takes all kinds in reply to Allan in NE, 09-05-2004 07:39:25  
Is it just me or is the standing platform bent just above the brake housing? If so that would be a first for me.



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JMS/MN

09-05-2004 22:04:08




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 Re: Takes all kinds in reply to Allan in NE, 09-05-2004 07:39:25  
At least the saving grace is that the lift arm assembly came from a WD Allis-Chalmers. He disassembled the unit to relocate the short arms that the lift cylinders hook up to. Sure would like my red BIL to see the hydraulic improvement.



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Chris Brown

09-05-2004 16:08:14




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 Re: Takes all kinds in reply to Allan in NE, 09-05-2004 07:39:25  
I've seen worse. I know a guy who has a 9n ford,he uses it for brush hogging around the house and barn. The lift was out when he got it,he uses a chunk of 4x4 under the upper lift arm to hold the 3 point up. He adjusts it by driving the back wheels off in a ditch. He's happy with it. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder,maybe he's blind..



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CNKS

09-05-2004 09:23:43




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 Re: Takes all kinds in reply to Allan in NE, 09-05-2004 07:39:25  
I don't object to the 3-point that much. Most aftermarket 3-points bolt to the axle housings (I have two Saginaws). Those housings were not designed for that purpose, and you must make sure the bolts are kept tight. Thus the swinging part of the standard drawbar that pulls from underneath the tractor, and the semimounted plows pull from framework bolted to the torque tube. Bolting a 3-point to the rear frame makes them more secure. Does look a little cobbled up, but I bet those light lower arms give out before something breaks on the mounting apparatus. I don't recognize the axle housings, as they don't have indentations.

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Buzzman72

09-05-2004 22:03:24




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 NOT designed for that purpose??!? in reply to CNKS, 09-05-2004 09:23:43  
When you said that "Those axle housings were not designed for that purpose," I guess then the factory really didn't mean to attach the original drawbar to the axle housings? I mand, if the factory drawbar was meant to support the weight of the implements the tractor was pulling, then they SURELY must have meant to attach it a different way...right?

Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying?

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CNKS

09-06-2004 18:59:10




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 Re: NOT designed for that purpose??!? in reply to Buzzman72, 09-05-2004 22:03:24  
Heavy mounted tillage equipment will put a heavy load on those clamps. Note that on the fast hitch tractors, fast hitch does not use those clamps, but pulls from underneath (at least on my 460), with bracing attached to the differential housing. I don't think there is nearly as much strain on the drawbar with a trailing implement as there would be with semimounted plow on the same brackets. I pulled a 3 disk "breaking plow" with my dad's H for several summers in the 50's, the main pull was from a bracket under the tractor, the axle clamps held the part of the lifting mechanism. For trailing implements, we only used the fixed drawbar as a support for the swinging drawbar, which attaches underneath.

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Allan in NE

09-05-2004 07:42:02




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 Re: Takes all kinds in reply to Allan in NE, 09-05-2004 07:39:25  
Get a load of the rear light. :>)



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Jim Becker

09-05-2004 06:51:46




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 Re: Takes all kinds in reply to Allan in NE, 09-05-2004 04:21:45  
I have a B that dad bought back in the '50s. The bolster was backwards when he got it and it is still that way. Never really seemed to make any difference so we never changed it.



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Wayne Swenson

09-05-2004 06:36:16




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 Re: Takes all kinds in reply to Allan in NE, 09-05-2004 04:21:45  
Someone should tell them the front end bolster is reversed. Must be hard to drive in a straight line!



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Nebraska Cowman

09-05-2004 05:41:31




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 Re: Takes all kinds in reply to Allan in NE, 09-05-2004 04:21:45  
If you have the newer style gear that is a compleat circle the wheel will turn compleatly around if the stop bolt is missing. might be kind of tricky to steer with the caster reversed!!!!!



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Allan in NE

09-05-2004 05:54:53




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 Re: Takes all kinds in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 09-05-2004 05:41:31  
LOL!

I think this guy is missing more than the stop bolt. :>)

Allan



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rustyfarmall

09-05-2004 04:34:35




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 Re: Takes all kinds in reply to Allan in NE, 09-05-2004 04:21:45  
Some folks just don't get it, I saw an M once where they had actually cut away and removed part of the hood so it would clear the alternator. The sad part of it is that an M has plenty of room under the hood for an alternator.



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Allan in NE

09-05-2004 04:28:25




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 Re: Takes all kinds in reply to Allan in NE, 09-05-2004 04:21:45  
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Another resounding example of a 12 volt change over. :>)



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Tim in NB

09-05-2004 06:35:41




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 Re: Takes all kinds in reply to Allan in NE, 09-05-2004 04:28:25  
Well at least he didn't cut the hood to install his Chrysler alternator that requires an external regulator. Nice spacer for the hood! Lol



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