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Bigger than an M??? One for her...

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Adam Paul

09-28-2004 15:02:59




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Hey guys!!! I've got a quick question as I'm not yet a Farmall guy. My better half really likes Red... And she's thinking of letting another tractor into our stable for her to bring to the antique tractor shows... Here's the deal, She wants a HUGE Farmall... She really likes the look of the "M", but was actually looking for something bigger(visually speaking as in taller like).... So, what might we want to have a look at??? And, where "M" various sizes???
Were thinking pre 60's.... Thanks in advance,
Adam

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Harold H

09-29-2004 05:10:42




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 Re: Bigger than an M??? One for her... in reply to Adam Paul, 09-28-2004 15:02:59  
If she wants something massive get her a McCormick WR-9. If she wants something tall get her a Farmall MV. If you can't find a MV, build a high clear type from a M using cotton picker axle housings, bull gears, 20" single front, and reverse top. Same height as MV and probably less expensive to come by. Personally I'd look for a WR-9. You don't find many and they look especially massive with the big R&C tires and big fenders, much more so than a regular W-9.

Harold H

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Joe Evans

09-28-2004 20:03:35




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 Re: Bigger than an M??? One for her... in reply to Adam Paul, 09-28-2004 15:02:59  
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Here's a pic that will show the differences in "stature". From right to left: Super M, W-9 and a 400 painted as a 450.



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K.B.-826

09-28-2004 19:29:47




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 Re: Bigger than an M??? One for her... in reply to Adam Paul, 09-28-2004 15:02:59  
The letter series Farmall's were the A, B, C, H, and M. Built from '39-'50 roughly. Those were then replaced by the Super series, Super A, Super C, Super H, and Super M came along about '51, and the Super MTA came along in '54. Super M and SMTA are not physically bigger than a straight M, but are more powerful. In '55, the 00 series replaced the Supers. These were the 100, 200, 300, and 400. In '57, the 00's were replaced by the 30/50 series, the 130, 230, 350, and 450. Once agian, the 400 and 450 are more powerful than a M, but are still pretty much the same size. In '58, the 40/60 series Farmalls came along. These were the 140, 240, the new size 340, the 460, and the 560. The 560 was a little more powerful than a 450, but still basically the same rear end. The difference is that it had a 6-cylinder engine. 560 would be the biggest FARMALL out of the '50's, but doesen't look much like an M. Now let's do the Standard/Wheatland models. These were sold as McCormick-Deerings or Internationals. There was the W-4, which was roughly the same tractor as an H, the W-6 roughly the same as an M, and the W-9, which would be bigger than any letter series Farmall. The W-4, -6 and -9 were also replaced by Supers, then the -4 was dropped and the Super W-6 and -9 were replaced by the W-400 and W-600, then the W-450 and W-650, then the W-560 and W-660. The 660 was the biggest farm tractor built by IH in the '50's. The W-9/SW-9/600/650 are the biggest tractors that resemble an M as far as styling goes.

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CNKS

09-29-2004 06:28:56




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 Re: Bigger than an M??? One for her... in reply to K.B.-826, 09-28-2004 19:29:47  
Not the biggest tractors, but you omitted the 300/350 utility, the 350 Hi-Utility, and the 350 Wheatland. Also the utilities in the 40 and 60 series. Mainly wanted to point out that the 350 Wheatland was probably the replcement for the Super W4, which as you say was not produced in the 00 series.



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CNKS

09-28-2004 18:06:28




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 Re: Bigger than an M??? One for her... in reply to Adam Paul, 09-28-2004 15:02:59  
Biggest in terms of HP and taller FARMALL not produced in the 60's would be a 450 high clearance.



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Tim Malin

09-28-2004 16:26:28




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 Re: Bigger than an M??? One for her... in reply to Adam Paul, 09-28-2004 15:02:59  
Maybe look into something like the big W-9 or a 600 or 650 Farmall. More I think about it, I bet she would like a W-9. That was about the biggest Farmall, and has many styling likenesses to the M. I think there are some pictures over on the left that will show a W-9, and they are around. Not quite as common as an M, so maybe it will suit great as a show tractor. Impressing the woman should always take much consideration. I definately know and understand why. Good luck.

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Glenn F.

09-28-2004 23:06:30




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 Re: Bigger than an M??? One for her... in reply to Tim Malin, 09-28-2004 16:26:28  
I don't think too many women would feel comfortable operating a W9, especially in tight quarters.



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I Bleed Green

09-28-2004 17:57:11




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 Re: Bigger than an M??? One for her... in reply to Tim Malin, 09-28-2004 16:26:28  
Sorry a John Deere guy has to tell you, but a W-9, 600, and 650 are not a Farmall. They are standard type tractors. Farmall are row crop type.



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Tim Malin

09-28-2004 18:47:58




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 Re: Bigger than an M??? One for her... in reply to I Bleed Green, 09-28-2004 17:57:11  
Well, his wife wants something bigger than an M. Well, that leaves what for that IH era? MTA, and 400 and 450 don't have the true M styling. She wants something taller, which would leave MV, but they are not cheap by any means. A W-9 is almost the same height with a lot more sack and a massive engine. I was just suggesting. I am well aware that the W stands for wheatland, and even 1206 wheatland's were labeled International rather than Farmall. Basically anything that could be equipped with a tricylcle front end was a Farmall, and the stockier W-series carried either the McCormick of McCormick Deering decals. Even the 600 and 650 had International as their plates. I am facinated by my uncle's W-4 and W-6, and, as I said in my original post, this would be a topic for him worth considering. He may go look at a picture and like the tractor and start looking for one, or he may look at some others and say maybe a 450 is the way to go. I have always had a facination for the belt power of the W-9 after watching one at a Minnesota show, because I run my Super M and two friend's M-TA's at our local show on the sawmill, and a W-9 would walk away if it were to operate also. I've seen a 450 on the same mill, and it runs a hair better, but it will never be a W-9. How else can you compete against a engine with pistons the size of coffee cans? With all due respect to your favorite color, which is great, I love some green too, but I have been around red (and earlier gray!!) all of my life. I did not intend to undershoot Adam Paul at all, but I figured a simple answer for my two cents would be a lead in the right path. Women are so difficult and different, there was no way two inches from a hot iron I was going to tell him a certain tractor was the way to go. If he asked me to go shopping with him, I could tell him more about IH tractors than he would ever care to know, because I love them that much. IH's styling and numbering system is just so confusing and varying ...well, just look at the discussions and debates on here when everyone with the same models of tractors yet arguing what is really "original." I try to stay out of those conversations unless I have something in writing. Thank you for clarifying the Farmall/McCormick issue with others on this board who may not quite know, yet. Those of us on the Farmall Discussion Board and those of us who are members of Red Power's Forum, members like myself, for the last 3 years now, pick up these things from time to time. Newbies sometimes learn just by reading other posts.

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little john

09-28-2004 15:46:10




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 Re: Bigger than an M??? One for her... in reply to Adam Paul, 09-28-2004 15:02:59  
Also look at the Farmall 400 and 450. YOu can see some pictures over on the left of the page, under Galleries and Tractor Photos. Sounds like fun!



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John M

09-28-2004 15:41:33




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 Re: Bigger than an M??? One for her... in reply to Adam Paul, 09-28-2004 15:02:59  
MV!Biggest(Tallest) of the time.



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The Red

09-28-2004 15:34:10




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 Re: Bigger than an M??? One for her... in reply to Adam Paul, 09-28-2004 15:02:59  
Sorry, I am already taken, LOL



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farmallman

09-28-2004 16:31:15




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 Re: Bigger than an M??? One for her... in reply to The Red, 09-28-2004 15:34:10  
What do u mean and what does that have to do with tractors.



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tiny

09-28-2004 17:00:18




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 Re: Bigger than an M??? One for her... in reply to farmallman, 09-28-2004 16:31:15  
Hes got a wife and he aint very cute:)



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