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Hydraulic check valve on IH 460

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doorguy

11-10-2004 18:16:33




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The teledepth valve on my 460 utility has been changed to a hydra-touch valve. Is the inline check valve going to the lift cylinder still needed, and could this check valve cause my hyd. system to stay on load until I activate one of the control valves? Thanks in advance, doorguy




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Joe Evans

11-10-2004 21:02:15




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 Re: Hydraulic check valve on IH 460 in reply to doorguy, 11-10-2004 18:16:33  
Well...this is got me scratchin' my head.

I'm not aware of a factory installed check valve servicing the lift cylinder. How would the cylinder be lowered or raised if a check valve allows oil to flow in one direction?

I suppose a Hydra-Touch valve would work for the Fast-Hitch cylinder. The drawback would be that the Hydra-Touch valve needs to be manually returned to center once the hitch height is selected. Can you hit the exact desired hitch height every time when plowing for instance? I think not.

IF the unlatching valve is not working in the Hydra-Touch valve servicing the hitch cylinder, then it will not flop the Hydra-Touch valve to neutral (center) when the system hi-pressures at the maximum or minimum travel of the lift cylinder.

Beyond this, there are a number of things that can keep the system in a hi-pressure condition, but I only understand the causes of this on a tractor that is equipped the way it's supposed to be.

It's late, been to my high-school's stag party and have consumed some adult beverages. My thinking says there's no way the lift cylinder would work if there is a check valve present in a ine going to the lift cylinder.

Need more information.

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doorguy

11-10-2004 22:12:56




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 Re: Hydraulic check valve on IH 460 in reply to Joe Evans, 11-10-2004 21:02:15  
The check valve is located between the control valve and the lift cyl. Both lines go into check valve and out the other side. This is shown in the I&T manual, just not sure if it is necessary with hydra-touch valve. Stopping point memory is not important since I don't plow or cultivate. Thanks, doorguy



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Joe Evans

11-11-2004 10:28:36




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 Re: Hydraulic check valve on IH 460 in reply to doorguy, 11-10-2004 22:12:56  
Yep, there it is. I see the picture in the manual. Apparently our 460 is not "so equipped."

I don't know its purpose other than being a load holding/safety valve instead of this task being handled by the lift cylinder's control valve. If so, then it would likely be pilot operated very much like a backhoe outrigger valve--it has to be pressurized for it to operate.

Might as well bypass the check valve and remove it from the circuit. Give it a shot.

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Joe Evans

11-11-2004 06:19:50




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 Re: Hydraulic check valve on IH 460 in reply to doorguy, 11-10-2004 22:12:56  
Hmmm...I'll look at my manual and get back to you.



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