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766 -plough match?

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scruffy

11-17-2004 07:03:18




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What would be a good plough for the 766, about 80 hp. Our land is heavy. What are the benefits to semi-mount over 3 point? Who makes your favorite?




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scruffy

11-18-2004 04:14:18




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 Re: 766 -plough match? in reply to scruffy, 11-17-2004 07:03:18  
Thanks for your input guys! I have 28 days left on my warranty and wanted to put a plough behind her, that should give her a good test.



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Hugh MacKay

11-17-2004 15:14:42




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 Re: 766 -plough match? in reply to scruffy, 11-17-2004 07:03:18  
Scruffy: I farmed sandy loam and in that soil 766 was considered 6x16 plow tractor. I had one out on demo once, it played with my 5x16 semi mount. I usually pulled that plow with 656D. Load her down and plow at 3 to 3.5 mph, you'll have a lot less breakage. Those guys who say they don't plow right at the slower speed just don't have the plow set right. You can make any plow in good condition do perfect plowing at 1 mph if you want. Remember, your 766 pulling 5x16 at 3.5 mph will plow close to 3 acres per hour. and pulling 4x16 at 4.5 mph close to 3 acres per hour. I am talking plowing 8" deep. Remember, farming to make money, is NOT being married to the parts counter.

My 1066 would pull my 25' vibra shank cultivator at 10 mph, if you didn't mind buying a $35. shank per hour. Planting behind it was like going over waves on water. Thankfully we got that cowboy stopped after 5 acres. It took 5 years to take the waves out of that soil. Saw a guy doing that same thing the other day, cultivator was just bouncing. It would go about 6" to 8" deep then almost clear the ground. Guys like that with too much horse power have made a mess of much of the farmland in North America. I don't know how they manage to get any uniform depth when seeding.

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Allan in NE

11-17-2004 18:36:41




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 Re: 766 -plough match? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-17-2004 15:14:42  
Spoken like a true drylander, Hugh. :>)



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Hugh MacKay

11-18-2004 03:46:24




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 Re: 766 -plough match? in reply to Allan in NE, 11-17-2004 18:36:41  
Allan: I don't know as true drylander is the word. My dad and I always believed field tillage was much like grading a gravel road. If you don't cut it to a uniform depth, your loose material will just settle out at same grade as all the hummocs left below. Dad had a 57 Chevrolet sedan when I was 16, he said if you couldn't drive over seeded out alfalfa or grass at 50 mph tillage operator hadn't done a good job. Same was the case of the grader operator on the gravel road. Dad didn't want to hear Chevy wheels going over the wash board.

A lot of guys today believe tillage is just about tearing soil to bits and levelling it with a land leveller. We didn't have land levellers in the 50s, didn't have power to pull them anyhow. Quite often today you seed road graders on gravel roads bouncing much like the cultivator I described. Both a case of more horse power than operator is capable of dealing with.

I used to do a bit of custom work in the 70s and early 80s. Fields that I knew a sprayer boom shouldn't hit the ground, but it did. I used to tell guys that I wasn't going to do buldozing for them with combine equiped with automatic header height control and floating cutter bar. Or make graden rows with corn crop dividers. The average combine just has too much traction and power for light buldozing or making rows. A good number of farmers have gone to discbines. Sad part is a lot of them have been bought to grind off the hummocs left by poor tillage. We had a discussion here last spring, one guy was making 8-10 acres per hour with 9' discbine. The rest were all doing 5 acres per hour, exactly the same as I did with 656 and 9' haybine 30 years ago. I suspect that one guy had his fields level, the rest were grinding off hummocs.

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Allan in NE

11-18-2004 05:09:03




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 Re: 766 -plough match? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-18-2004 03:46:24  
Mornin' Hugh,

I agree with you totally. For any given primary tillage task, the ground ought to lie like a card table.

I get so tickled with these guys who think that they are "plowing" while still leaving those ridges and rows..... :>) What they are really doing is just creating nothing more than a future headache.

Allan



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TP from Central PA

11-17-2004 12:57:20




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 Re: 766 -plough match? in reply to scruffy, 11-17-2004 07:03:18  
My neighbors have 2 766D"s..... Only real difference is the one has a diff. lock and the other one doesn"t. They pull 5-16"s with theirs. The one with the diff. lock has the pump turned up alittle more than the other one and they pull my other neighbors 6-16 plow in flat river bottoms with that one.

A good 766 should handle atleast 4-16"s in nearly anything. We pulled 4-14"s with a 706D(D282) on the hillsides.

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caseyc

11-17-2004 07:45:07




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 Re: 766 -plough match? in reply to scruffy, 11-17-2004 07:03:18  
here in eastern SD the soil is light and sandy. i can pull a 4/18 in low 3. probably could in low 4 but don't feel like trashing my rig. growing up in eastern WI where the ground is heavy a 4/18 was all our 1086 wanted! i like my fast hitch plow personally. see if you can find a couple of different ones to borrow and see what you like.

casey



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rustyfarmall

11-17-2004 07:41:09




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 Re: 766 -plough match? in reply to scruffy, 11-17-2004 07:03:18  
It all depends on where you live and what type of soil you will be plowing, but as a rule of thumb, no more than 4-16s.



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Allan in NE

11-17-2004 07:30:47




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 Re: 766 -plough match? in reply to scruffy, 11-17-2004 07:03:18  
Scruffy,

This is probably the worst tractor IH ever sold. I think you should really consider getting rid of it..... ..... .. (Maybe to someone like me?) LOL!

I've heard tales of people pulling 4-16s with 'em. Dunno, I used a IH 314 spinner on mine @ about 4.5 mph in 4-low, if I remember right.

Allan



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steveormary

11-17-2004 10:00:26




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 Re: 766 -plough match? in reply to Allan in NE, 11-17-2004 07:30:47  
Scruffy

Had a 706 ger.diesel with loaded tires. Pulled 4-16 fast hitch semimount plow in L4. 4.5mph is about the right speed.

steveormary



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Allan in NE

11-17-2004 11:49:40




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 Re: 766 -plough match? in reply to steveormary, 11-17-2004 10:00:26  
Steve,

4.5mph lays it out there just about right, don't it?

Seems like anything less and you're a leaving "rows" & anything faster is "flingin" the soil. :>)

Allan



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steveormary

11-17-2004 21:12:13




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 Re: 766 -plough match? in reply to Allan in NE, 11-17-2004 11:49:40  

Yup



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