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Starters- 12 Volts will not ruin a 6-volt starter, but long cranking time (regardless of voltage) will. I’ve been staring my M on 12-volts with a 6-volt starter for over 20 years, 15 of them in the winter (including days at -20) on a daily basis. I never burned out a starter, but did have to replace starter drives.

Second, check spark from the coil. Bright blue at least ½ inch from the high tension lead to a ground. If good there, pull a plug wire and make sure spark is good there. I would also recommend a complete set of new spark plugs as they may be fuel soaked and not sparking properly.

Third, make sure it’s getting fuel and has compression.

Try to start the tractor without choking. If it has fuel, and spark, it should start. As others have said, use starting fluid sparingly, if fuel is dripping from the bottom of the carburetor, it is probably flooded. Open the throttle half way or better and leave the choke off. You should get a pop or something.

Post back and let us know how you are getting along.

None-the-less, if a tractor won't start in five to ten seconds turning over, you need to look at what may be wrong.

It may have old gas in it as well. If you can control yourself, a LITTLE starting fluid will tell you if you have a fuel problem unless you're flooded. NEVER try to keep one running with starting fluid as it will dry the oil off the cylinder walls. If you can't give it only one or two half-second shots of starting fluid you are better off leaving the starting fluid at Wal-Mart.

You may have the starter drive hung up in the ring gear. Pull the starter off, make sure it is turning free, and put it back on. If the starter was hung up, it gets hot quick and may need to go to the repair shop if you were holding the starter switch on with no cranking taking place.

Get a battery charger. Draining a battery does not ruin it.

I assume you have checked the gas tank.

EXPLOSION? Doesn't sound good to me at all.
Like others have said don't bother cranking for more than about 5 seconds at a time. A lot of these old tractors that have been converted to 12 volt still have the 6 volt starter and putting 12 volts to it for more than 5 seconds or so will kill it. Don't be surprised if you cooked the starter...hopefully it will still be ok for ya.

Is there fuel in the sediment bowl and the tank?
I assume the petcock on the sediment bowl is open?

Take the carb off and go through it....I bet you find some garbage in there.

Once you have that all done try starting it as Allan recommended....use the choke very sparingly.
My H only needs the choke for about 1 revolution...these chokes mean business!

Do you have another tractor? If so maybe you can pull up beside your H and hook the hydraulic line into the other tractor to get the loader off the ground to allow you to tow it out of the way....
Good luck and keep us posted on your progress or lack thereof.

If it is, next check to see if it is getting gas to the carb.

If it started and ran for 5 minutes and died, the float may be stuck, and either letting it flood out (stuck open), or letting the bowl go dry ( stuck closed - but letting some gas seep thru enough to get it started and run for 5 mins etc.. ).

All you need is air, fuel, spark, compression and near correct timing.

If it does spark.. try to see if it will start on a very small amount of ether.. or even wd-40 sprayed at the carb mouth.. if it starts fine on the wd-40 or ether.. might be a fuel delivery problem.. or woefully weak spark.

Soundguy

You're startin' to depress me! :>)

Are you chokin' this tractor? Hs just can't stand a lot of choke; none really to get 'er to pop.

They start best by pulling the throttle to 2/3 open before you crank cold. Then, when it sputters to life, feather the choke just a little to keep it going and to get it somewhat warmed up.

It must be somewhat in time or it wouldn't have started to let you load the darned thing.

Allan

Getting an engine running and running right is just troubleshooting. one thing at a time until it runs.

4 requirements

Fuel Compression
Timing
spark

The good news is each one can be checked separately. It ran not long ago so it has fuel (but as others have said, it could be dirty or have a dirty filter. The 5 min run points to a dirty filter) I would use fresh gas and a new filter before going any further.

Compression, It ran so it has it. might be low, That makes it hard to start but once you get it running you can check that.

Timing you can put the tractor in high or use the crank to turn it over and watch the points open, look at the timing mark and see what the timing is.

This will get you close, then once it is running you can tweek it.

Spark. Others have told you how to check for it. Problems are wiring and cleanliness. The dist cap, inside of the dis, and the coil and wires need to be clean and dry.

The low voltage side sounds suspect. I would disconnect all the wiring and hot wire it. Battery to ground good heavy clean connection
Battery to starter same
Battery to coil (disconnect the tractor wiring to the coil and replace it with a temporary one of your own. now you know you have volts to the coil. no wiring, no switches, no charger, nothing else to worry about until it is running right.

(Remove this wire to stop engine)

There should be a wire (low voltage, not spark plug) from the coil to the distributor. Leave that wire, or if it is messed up, replace it also there should be a condenser connected to the points. is that there? is it clean?

As some one else said, you need a charger, A 10 amp will do. but you have to have one to trouble shoot and to bring the battery back up after the tractor has been sitting a long time.

Frank