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lee

12-16-2004 10:40:33




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The spotlight article on the home page is amusing on the surface. It does seem a tragic end could have easily been the result had that tractor not topped the summit with one kid on the tractor and two on the loaded wagon, very likely unable to stop, backing furiously down that hill. In short order, jacknife, rollover, its all done in a heartbeat.




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Nebraska Cowman

12-16-2004 19:47:18




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 Re: Article spotlight on home page, a recipe for d in reply to lee, 12-16-2004 10:40:33  
ya lee, lots of things could'a happened but they didn't. many of us did dumb stunts with tractors and we are here yet. I know if it would have been me I would have known enough to NOT let the tractor roll back. I was hauling full loads of hay with a 9N Ford before I was 10 years old. You LEARNED HOW to drive. Crossing the creek you knew you had to be in 2nd ger cuz it would spin out in first, and you had to spilt the track and keep your tires on the sod. Same thing going up the bank into the barn. You knew you only had one chance and you had darn well better hit the door. Just one example, I could't have been more than 9 or 10 and was bringing in a load of bales with the little Ford. I swung in the driveway in high but there was a hill by the barn and I knew I had to downshift. In shifting between 3rd and 2nd the shift lever came right out in my hand. You better believe I got my fist lesson in self taught double clutching right there, And no, the tractor never rolled back.

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Paul Shuler

12-16-2004 16:16:42




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 Re: Article spotlight on home page, a recipe for d in reply to lee, 12-16-2004 10:40:33  
Not wanting to get into the middle of something here.I think what Hugh meant was that we all in our youth have done things that just make us shake our head when we think back on them now. When we where kids we used to see my dads old truck comeing home from work and we would run to meet him and ride home "at a snails pace" on the hood. We thought it was great. Now I see kids without seat belts on in cars and I want to stop them and shake their parents.I guess what I'm saying,what didn't kill us help make us who we are today. Right or wrong.

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Hugh MacKay

12-16-2004 14:52:25




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 Re: Article spotlight on home page, a recipe for d in reply to lee, 12-16-2004 10:40:33  
lee: A great many events such as this took place across North America. Many of these just as that young lad, wanting to prove he had talked his dad into buying the right tractor. Sadly some of them did end in tragety. However many many more of these events turned out some of the finest tractor operators the land has ever seen. I remember as a 10 year old I was allowed to drive the Farmall Cub. My younger brothers were not. One day coming home from hoeing, my brother talked me into letting him drive. Another brother and I got on the trailer. What I failed to do was tell him how to stop, thus he drove right over the firewood pile. With that my dad enlightened everyone how to start, move, stop and shut off the tractor. Dad saw right away his boys were going to drive those tractors whether he liked it or not. Suddenly everyone who could reach the pedals were allowed to drive the tractor as long as it was useful work.

From that day foreward my dad and mother raised 5 boys on a dairy farm that grew from a dozen cows in 1950 to 50 cows by 1965. My dad also taught about 20 other young people to drive tractors. Some would say that farm had some very dangerous equipment, narrow front Farmalls with front end loaders, just as an example. I later bought that farm from my dad and it became 100 cow farm with skid loaders, tower silos, 150 hp tractors, trucks, etc. I practiced the same policy of letting the young operate equipment. The unfortunate part is by 1970, government regulations on labour put an end to this other than immediate family. And yes we are worse off as a result. Those farms were the driving schools of the nation.

My dad and I together probably trained 35 young people to drive tractors. That farm never had a lost time accident in all those years. One young lad I remember in particular, dad had him raking hay with Farmall 130 by the time he was 8. Dad's average baling day was about 3,000 bales and that young lad raked it all for about 4 years. He is now reaching 50, has become a long haul trucker and has seen every mainland State in the Union, Every Province in Canada. Probably he has logged as many miles as anyone his age, and he has yet to put anything more than a minor scratch on a motor vehicle.

No lee, the person who never made any mistakes in life, didn't do a whole lot. Young people have been injured and killed, from a lot more hairbrained ideas than pulling a big load up the hill with a tractor.

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Jonboy

12-16-2004 21:06:53




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 Re: Article spotlight on home page, a recipe for d in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-16-2004 14:52:25  
I gotta admit that driving my dads 8N when I could barley reach the pedals myself sure did help me out. I didn't have much trouble adjusting to automobiles when the time come and so far I have been accident free, but I did get to see some of the kids who lived in the village drive in the drivers education car in high school and saw why the brakes are installed on both sides of the car with good reason!. That experience is why farmers are the least likey of all the people to get in an accident according to statistics. Yes, there was a danger of the tractor possibly ending up bottom side up at the bottom of the hill, but then again, every time you get in your car and drive 50mph down the highway, think of how the cars in the opposing lane are also doing 50mph and a head on collision would be like a 100mph crash!, scary to think about all those things isn't it, but then 1 thing thats true about life is nobody makes it out alive, so you can stay at home and eat nothing but health food and not do anything "dangerous", and you will still die. I like that U.S military ad campaign that says "If someone were to write a book about your life, would anyone want to read it?". I'm not saying that I believe in living life like theres no tommorrow, but I do believe that life should be lived out alittle. I think we pretty much die when its our time and besides, that story was something that happened years and years ago, and the person wished to share it, same as I could come up with some stories about some stuff I did. If you really think about it, we all do things everyday that could potentially end our life, sometimes we don't even realize it.

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lee

12-16-2004 15:41:35




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 Re: Article spotlight on home page, a recipe for d in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-16-2004 14:52:25  
Hugh, as much I respect your opinion and experience in most cases, if you do not see the danger in that story, I would not want you teaching any of my youngsters how to safely operate a tractor or wheelborrow for that matter.



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Hugh MacKay

12-17-2004 12:10:00




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 Re: Article spotlight on home page, a recipe for d in reply to lee, 12-16-2004 15:41:35  
lee: I will let my record speak for itself. Two generations and no lost time accidents. I will also say, I think all but one of those young people are still living. The one being my kid brother and he died from Lou Gehrig's disease.

All of our children learned to drive tractors by the time they were 10. They started on such vehicles as Farmall 130 and Skid Loaders. Those loaders had ROPS with seat belts. And yes every one of them had a crack at the 1066 by the time they were 14 and doing some serious work with it. Not one of our children have ever been involved in a motor vehicle accident. For the most part the last ten years of their lives they have been driving the streets of Toronto.

I rest my case.

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lee

12-17-2004 14:00:16




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 Re: Article spotlight on home page, a recipe for d in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-17-2004 12:10:00  
Somehow the point of the post was lost. It was not to say that young kids should not drive tractors. It's not a big deal.



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