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Tracking down the spark

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kurow

12-22-2004 11:49:44




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Here is the deal. I have a new battery. with my test light i have power on both sides of the coil, power at the dist and on one side of the points (when they are open). I can flick the points with a scewdriver and get a spark. Dont have a helper so cant crank and watch at the same time. Had dist cap and leads tested and they are fine. have cleaned up rotor and points inside cap.
But no spark at the plugs.
Condenser is new.
Any ideas greatly accepted.
Merry Christmas from New Zealand where is is warm. talk to you all next year.

S

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MAGMAN

12-22-2004 13:20:07




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 Re: Tracking down the spark in reply to kurow, 12-22-2004 11:49:44  
I would say bad coil wire or is the rotor touching the center of the cap? JON



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Bob M

12-22-2004 12:52:01




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 Re: Tracking down the spark in reply to kurow, 12-22-2004 11:49:44  
Try this: Pull the center wire out of the distributor. Plug a known good spark plug onto the end of the wire, then lay the plug on a grounded surface. Now turn on the ignition and “flick” the points with a screwdriver.

If you get a good spark at the plug then you’ve got a mechanical problem someplace (distributor shaft is not turning, point gap is way out, distributor shaft/bushing is worn so the points are not opening at the right time, etc)

But if you get no spark at the plug but a spark at the points, look for a bad coil or condenser.

Good luck, and Merry Christmas from upstate NY - where yesterday’s high was a positively balmy 5 deg F!

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Ron in Nebr

12-22-2004 12:32:29




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 Re: Tracking down the spark in reply to kurow, 12-22-2004 11:49:44  
See if you can rig your test light up to the coil so that you can crank the tractor over and watch the light. Clamp the test light lead on the coil and use a set of jumper cables or any wire with alligator clips on both ends to ground the point of the light to the frame. When you have the test light on the wire going from the coil to the points(and the point of the test light grounded to the frame), the light should flash as you crank the engine over. If it doesn't then your point gap need adjusted. Did the tractor run before? Could be that the breaker cam on the distributor is worn out.

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Allan in NE

12-22-2004 12:15:18




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 Re: Tracking down the spark in reply to kurow, 12-22-2004 11:49:44  
S,

When you say, "I can flick the points with a screwdriver and get spark", I assume you mean that you are getting spark at the plug wires?

So, it sould only be a few things left to check. Points set correctly? Plugs good? Is the distributor shaft actually turning?

If this is not what you meant and you are only getting primary "spark" at the points, you could have a bad coil, coil wire, rotor, distributor cap or plug wires.

Hope ya get 'er,

Allan

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Andy Martin

12-23-2004 05:39:22




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 Re: Tracking down the spark in reply to Allan in NE, 12-22-2004 12:15:18  
I bet Allan's right. Either the distributor is not turning or th epoints are not adjusted to open.

Stick a spark plug wire in the coil and lay the plug where you can watch it when cranking. Make sure you have a good plug. Sometimes they will go bad just sitting with humidity.

If all else fails, take all the plugs out and you can crank the engine with the fan blade while you watch the action.

Good luck.

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kfox

12-22-2004 15:43:45




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 Re: Tracking down the spark in reply to Allan in NE, 12-22-2004 12:15:18  
Another thing to check is the plug wires. Make sure you have copper wire centers in the wires, and not the modern carbon centers type. ken



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