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Farmall H Help!!!

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gadawg

12-30-2004 14:40:52




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OK, here we go. This is my first restore, I"ve got a 1941 H Farmall. When I got her, she ran perfect. As a matter of fact I pulled it into the place that I took it down. I was told if it runs good and isn"t smoking, don"t do anything to the engine, so I didn"t. I did replace all of the seals and gasgets. After all of that and sand blasting and painting the tractor I put it all back together. I timed everything the way the manual said to. Here is my problem. I am getting fire, I wired it according to a wiring diagram I found on this forum, now when I try to crank it, it sounds like it"s going to crank but dies when I let off of the starter. If I just hit the starter is sound like it fires on all 4 plugs and dies.

Any suggestions??

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gadawg

12-30-2004 19:19:58




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 Re: Farmall H Help!!! in reply to gadawg, 12-30-2004 14:40:52  
Thanks guys!! Thats alot of great ideas. I will try them and let you know what happens.

gadawg



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CNKS

12-30-2004 19:10:32




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 Re: Farmall H Help!!! in reply to gadawg, 12-30-2004 14:40:52  
I believe anonymous has the right answer -- I did that once. Try that before you get into something more comoplicated.



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TomH

12-30-2004 18:32:49




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 Re: Farmall H Help!!! in reply to gadawg, 12-30-2004 14:40:52  
I second what arod said; it sounds like the timing is way off. The points have to be just starting to open when the pointer is on the timing mark. Make sure you know which way the rotor turns so you have them opening and not closing. Just loosen it up and turn it until you see them start to come apart.



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SomeoneAnonymous

12-30-2004 16:33:03




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 Re: Farmall H Help!!! in reply to gadawg, 12-30-2004 14:40:52  
Do you by chance have the wire that runs from the amp meter to the starter switch connected to the wrong side of the starter switch?



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gadawg

12-30-2004 19:47:27




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 Re: Farmall H Help!!! in reply to SomeoneAnonymous, 12-30-2004 16:33:03  
YOU ROCK!!!!! That was it. I changed the wire around, it turned over twice and ran like a baby. That was driving me crazy!!!!!

Thanks again my man.

SF



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SomeoneAnonymous

12-30-2004 21:06:19




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 Re: Farmall H Help!!! in reply to gadawg, 12-30-2004 19:47:27  
No problem. I just so happened to be working on getting a Farmall H wired up this afternoon after it was sent out to a shop for a paint job. The wire between the amp meter and the starter switch was missing, so we had to think through the whole wiring job (first time playing with a farmall).



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1947ihch

12-30-2004 16:04:53




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 Re: Farmall H Help!!! in reply to gadawg, 12-30-2004 14:40:52  
pull distributor turn 180 degrees put back in bring number one to top put plug wires on to order on block



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captaink

12-30-2004 16:02:46




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 Re: Farmall H Help!!! in reply to gadawg, 12-30-2004 14:40:52  
Sounds to me like the wire that is powering the coil is getting power from the starter switch or solenoid instead of the switch. I’m not sure if you did a 12-volt conversion or not and if so have a resistor and if the wiring diagram was for a 12-volt start/6-volt run for voltage to the coil. Either way, make sure that the wire supplying power to the coil is hot when the switch is on.

Hope this is it!

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arod

12-30-2004 14:55:10




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 Re: Farmall H Help!!! in reply to gadawg, 12-30-2004 14:40:52  
well let's see.
It ran when you got it, you did not do anything to compromise compression, i.e. remove rocker arms, etc. So it has good compression. You did not rebuild carb and fuel line was not plugged before. So you have fuel. Lastly however, you did remove the distributor to put a new gasket on it? Maybe you are 180 degrees off timing.

The tractor is tough to turn over when pulling on the flywheel and gas runs out when you unscrew the line at the carb input? Timing is off. Try again.

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gadawg

12-30-2004 15:14:01




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 Re: Farmall H Help!!! in reply to arod, 12-30-2004 14:55:10  
I did replace the head gasget, and I adjusted the gaps between the valve and the rocker arms.

When I timed the distributer, I held my finger over the 1st cyliner until the compression pushed my finger back, lined up the notch on the crank disk and placed the roter cap just before the number 1 firing pin. The first time I did this I timed it to the exhaust stroke and not the compression stroke and it didn't fire at all. Now it sounds like it is cranked as long as I hold the starter in. Is there more to timing the distributer?

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arod

12-30-2004 15:35:01




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 Re: Farmall H Help!!! in reply to gadawg, 12-30-2004 15:14:01  
dude, you need to twist the distributor til is sparks when cylinder one is at TDC, then lock it down.



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