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560 Engine casting number

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Farmallpuller

01-07-2005 14:34:14




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Hey ya'll I bought a 560 this past fall.It's a gas burner and the guy told me that it was not a 560 engine but he did not know what it was.I was also told it was a red diamond truck motor,,, which I ruled out since all the stuff I have found out says that they were over 400 cubes.My block has all the flat spots where the cubic inches are supposed to be stamped,,, but there not stamped.I looked behind the governor,below the tach drive,above the breather tube, inside the frame rails and the only thing I can find is a 395406R1 on the left hand side of the block.My IH dealer says this is a part # and thats all they know.Anybody got any ideas,, whether it's a 263,221,291,301,350 chevy ford dodg.Thanks Eric

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Eric Short

01-09-2005 14:22:41




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 Re: 560 Engine casting number in reply to Farmallpuller, 01-07-2005 14:34:14  
Hey guys I looked at the number on the block again to see that I hadn"t read it wrong,,,On the left side of the block toward the back the number is 395406R1.I"ve scratched the paint off of ever flat spot I can find and still no cubic inches stamped.Eric



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ejr

01-07-2005 17:34:42




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 Re: 560 Engine casting number in reply to Farmallpuller, 01-07-2005 14:34:14  
Did you look front right upper corner at flat spot thats where 301s are stamped.



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K.B.-826

01-07-2005 15:27:34




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 Re: 560 Engine casting number in reply to Farmallpuller, 01-07-2005 14:34:14  
Eric, I checked my Parts CD's, 395406R1 does not come up in the listings for the C-221, C-263, C-291, or C-301. It also does not come up in the 460, 560, 660, 606, 706, 806, 656, 756, 856, 826, 666, 766, or 686 tractor listings. I also checked the D-236, D-282, and D-301 listings, nothing there either. The part numbers for these blocks are located on the left side, toward the bottom rear, so it sounds like you are in the right area. Mabey you misread it? The model number and serial number for the IH six-cylinder gas and glowplug diesel tractor engines is located on a small flat area on the oil galley just to the rear of the oil filter base. The numbers are stamped very lightly and small, so they are just about impossible to see unless the block is perfectly clean. Mabey your engine is from a different family, I noticed you said you looked "below the tach drive", the six-cylinder gas tractor engines do not have a seperate tach drive like the diesels, the tach is driven off the distributor. I also noticed you said you looked "above the breather tube". The breather tube on this series of engines comes off of the lifter cover, which would not make a good place to put serial/model numbers. I really only know tractor engines, so I wouln't be much help determining if it is a truck engine. I do know that the tractor six-cylinder gas/glowplug diesels were based off of the Black Diamond truck engines, so mabey thats what it is? Also, check the Photo Ads, someone just had a picture of a Red Diamond engine in there.

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Roho

01-07-2005 18:45:36




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 Re: 560 Engine casting number in reply to K.B.-826, 01-07-2005 15:27:34  
Call Don at 660-367-2242.If anyone can help,he can



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