One Way Cylinders

Someone was asking how the cylinders were mounted on those old 2-row cultivators.

Although, I can't see 'em in this cultivator picture, our cultivator cylinders were mounted something like this, but they were mounted a little higher up.

One on each side of the tractor, mounted to the rear axles and they lifted the front gangs first via a 1 1/4" tube and the tube then pulled up the back gangs when it hit a collar.

Allan

Yes, you're right about that flatiron "U" strap.

This picture is kinda bad, as this guy has Jerryrigged this cylinder up to work his 3-point.

But on our cultivator, they mounted to the axles kinda like that only higher up, as you say, and with a heck of lot more machinery.

There were collars and springs on a horizontal pipe, which could be adjusted fore and aft to determine when the lift occured during the cylinder stroke.

Yep, if you worked the lever just right, you could drop just the right side. I seem to recall that if would lift the same way.

Allan

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I learned about that right side only drop one day as I finished up a 1/4 mile row wondering why my Dad was standing at the end with a rather unhappy look on his face.

Sounds like you had the left cylinder connected to the delayed lift port of the Lift-All, which was generally intended for a rear section with its own cylinder.

Yes, I think the culitvator in the picture is the newer one that had the lift cylinders up front and kinda pointing up at an angle, isn't it?

On ours, we attached the left cylinder to the left front port and the right cylinder to the right port.

Never did find a use for that left port pointing back; coulda used it on the mower, I guess, but didn't. Just always hooked to the right one, out of habit.

Allan

I guess that one side of the front might have a little more spring tension or a little less restriction in the dump circuit that could cause one side to drop first. Playing the control valve just so could restrict one side more than the other (probably what you experienced).

I may be all wet here, but I just dont' think that is how that "delay" feature worked.

The rear left port just simply pointed back, that's all. The delay required an additional restricted coupler unit, which was added in the hose line externally. I think I still have one of those things setting in a window sill down at the farm, cause we never ever used the joker.

I'm like you Dave, how in the world could a guy ride one of those things for years & years on end and not remember every single little nut and bolt?

I think if I had one laying in front of me, it would be no problem to mount it up okay. But to pull the darned images out of my mind is somewhat of a task at this late date. :>(

Allan

I certainly trust your knowledge, and I have a major case of CRS myself, but I distinctly remember that sticky spot in the lift handle and that you had to push it through that. Exactly why or what caused it, I do not know.

I've got a younger brother that has always had a memory like an elephant. He could remember every waking moment of his life down to the smallest detail.

He is in his upper 40s now and a couple of years ago there was some silly little thing he couldn't remember.

It just absolutely drove that man nuts! He was just sure that he was loosing his mind and he worried about it for weeks one end. Just paced the floor and continually worried about it.

Heck, normal everyday occurance, I say. :>)

Allan