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240U cleaning up today in New Hampshire

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Dave D

01-23-2005 17:44:43




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OK, trying again to show the old girl working hard in the New Hampshire snow this very morning. From under a tarp covered by 12 inches of snow she started without aid of block heaters at 12F after a battery swap and enough starter fluid for an open heart surgery. (Only 2 mornings ago we had -18F and it has been COLD.) And she put in a good afternoon's work bucketing back plow berms. Just wish I had chains that fit her because we do a lot of slipping and spinning anytime we're slightly off level.

If this works, Cowman I owe you a hot toddy...!

Dave D

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Allan/NCA

01-26-2005 12:40:48




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 Re: 240U cleaning up today in New Hampshire in reply to Dave D, 01-23-2005 17:44:43  

Have you tried to adding a counter weight to the back of the tractor, it will make all the difference in the world to how the tractor handles. We had a small tractor and no nobody would use it because as soon as you put a load on the bucket it was hard to steer. The counter weight made it steer eaiser and it it gave better traction and balance. On heavy tractor/loader scrapers it's an OSHA requirement you have either a scraper or counter weight to use loader. Allan

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Darald

01-24-2005 12:15:23




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 Re: 240U cleaning up today in New Hampshire in reply to Dave D, 01-23-2005 17:44:43  
Hey these 240's look like a neat little machine. I just happen to be thinking about a yard tractor to replace my JD M that I started using on the finishing mower 25 years ago. Does the 240 have IPTO and/or any other neat features, and what is the HP? I have a 300U but it is to big for the mower. Thanks in advance.



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Dave D

01-24-2005 12:38:14




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 Re: 240U cleaning up today in New Hampshire in reply to Darald, 01-24-2005 12:15:23  
Darald, I think it's kind of a basic machine, though bigger than a Cub. The HP is around 30. There is PTO but I don't know what IPTO is and I know others reading this have forgotten more about the IH 240U than I will ever know, such as where it fits in the evolution of the Great North American tractor. Mine does not have any kind of hitches any more, just the PTO shaft coming out of the back end which is controlled with a lever that I removed because it kept getting in the way. It does have side hydraulic nozzles off a belly pump for implements, as well as a separate pump on the front for the loader, which was somebody's add-on, I guess.

I like mine a lot, despite some faults. If you are thinking about finding one be aware that the weakest link on these 240s -- judging by my experience and what everybody and his brother moans about in this forum -- is the steering box. Mine is loose as a goose and some parts wear out real easy making steering very much a challenge if not an actual crapshoot!

Next 240U issue might be the noisy clutch. Shifts are hardly ever silent and some guys writing here have split their 240U's 2 and 3 times, doing multiple total clutch rebuilds, and have not improved the noise. That's beyond my technical ability but my shift noise has actually simmered down after I cleaned out and refilled the tranny case and messed with the clutch clevis adjustment and I just live with the residual noise. At least it never slips out of gear.

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Darald

01-24-2005 22:21:27




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 Re: 240U cleaning up today in New Hampshire in reply to Dave D, 01-24-2005 12:38:14  
Dave, IPTO means Independent Power Take Off, in other words "live" and not gear driven from the tranny. IPTO does not require clutching to engage the PTO. 30 HP would be perfect for my use, as the JD M has about 18 on the PTO, combined with a converted 2 point to 3 point, and a reasonable hydraulic. There is one for sale in the photo ads, from Oregon.



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Dave D

01-25-2005 05:17:32




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 Re: 240U cleaning up today in New Hampshire in reply to Darald, 01-24-2005 22:21:27  
Darald, Thanks for the definition. I do not think the 240U has IPTO. it engages through the transmission in some way. Have never needed to try it so cannnot speak from experience. If you pull the top off you can see what looks to be a drive shaft transiting the length of the transmission case and terminating in the PTO shaft at the back. I like my 240 but it is only my 2nd old tractor if you count my dad's Ford NAA. The steering problem is very frustrating, however. Best of luck to you.

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K.B.-826

01-23-2005 19:14:15




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 Re: 240U cleaning up today in New Hampshire in reply to Dave D, 01-23-2005 17:44:43  
Nice looking 240. That looks like a heavy-duty loader, too. Chains would be a good investment, as well as fluid in the rear tires, if you don't already have it.



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Dave D

01-24-2005 07:25:14




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 Re: 240U cleaning up today in New Hampshire in reply to K.B.-826, 01-23-2005 19:14:15  
Hi KB -- the loader is a 'Superior' brand and this unit used to belong to the State of Conn. before arriving in NH. I need to figure out how to change the hydraulic fluid, which reservoirs inside the tubular structural frame members. It is strong but some hoses are gonna pop any day and I can't unscrew them because of rusted fittings. The tires are filled, altho the L one is only about half filled. Yes, I want new rear tires and chains that fit. There's a lot of things I want but few things I'm gonna be able to get in this life. -- DD

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deanop

01-23-2005 18:48:47




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 Re: 240U cleaning up today in New Hampshire in reply to Dave D, 01-23-2005 17:44:43  
looks pretty out there////if you painted it red, or i painted mine yellow we'd have the exact same rig loader and all...except i've got 2 turf tires in back....



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Dave D

01-24-2005 07:29:13




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 Re: 240U cleaning up today in New Hampshire in reply to deanop, 01-23-2005 18:48:47  
Hi Deanop -- I think you and I figured that out a couple months back. 240 with the Superior model loader. You told me yours can lift a house? Mine can definitely lift the back end off the ground, even with filled tires. It lifts large pine and hemlock logs witrhout too many problems. But I have some hoses that desperately need to be changes, so I am a little nervous each time I really stress it. This was a Conn. state highway tractor early in its life, thus the yellow color.

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PAULIH300

01-23-2005 18:13:43




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 Re: 240U cleaning up today in New Hampshire in reply to Dave D, 01-23-2005 17:44:43  
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Here's my 300...no,not today...too busy clearing snow,but you get the idea....minus the sheetmetal that is awaiting better weather (spring?)to be re-applied.



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CPNSix

01-23-2005 18:57:47




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 Re: 240U cleaning up today in New Hampshire in reply to PAULIH300, 01-23-2005 18:13:43  
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460 cleaning up in Michigan. You guys won't run me off for shoving around that green thing will you?

I'm having one heckuva time with the carb on this old girl and I'll be back later with some specific questions. Ya'll did a good job getting me going with my little BN. And I know from an earlier post that I still owe one fella some pictures of that one too.

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Dave D

01-23-2005 18:25:25




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 Re: 240U cleaning up today in New Hampshire in reply to PAULIH300, 01-23-2005 18:13:43  
Holy Cow you've got a hellacious amount of extension on that loader there, Paul. You can make some extra money renting it out to the local power company as an aerial manlift! Mine (a Superior) won't reach nearly that high. If it does, it will rip off the hydraulic filter which will clash with the right cylinder..... Cool picture!



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PAULIH300

01-23-2005 18:36:08




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 Re: 240U cleaning up today in New Hampshire in reply to Dave D, 01-23-2005 18:25:25  
It reaches the roof on the house,but cant find anybody to dare stand in the bucket on the way up!
Sure would make limbing trees easy!
As for electrical work....I think I'll pass on that...liability insurance and all...
zap zap...



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Dave (IL)

01-23-2005 18:24:52




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 Re: 240U cleaning up today in New Hampshire in reply to PAULIH300, 01-23-2005 18:13:43  
Paul,
I think you need some fringe on that surrey top!



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PAULIH300

01-23-2005 18:33:06




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 Re: 240U cleaning up today in New Hampshire in reply to Dave (IL), 01-23-2005 18:24:52  
Got plenty of snow off the front edge onto the dash today!



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