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Avery

02-01-2005 04:27:28




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Can soybeans be broadcasted by spreader then lightly disked in rather than drilling them or planting in rows and yields not be reduced. Never broadcasted any like this but have done rye for cover crops this way. Would this work ok? Thanks




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Too Far Gone

02-01-2005 17:18:30




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 Re: Farming Question in reply to Avery, 02-01-2005 04:27:28  
It will work good enough for a food plot,maybe.If you plan on harvesting the beans,please drill them.



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dieselade

02-01-2005 14:43:28




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 Re: Farming Question in reply to Avery, 02-01-2005 04:27:28  
it would be better to use a field cultivator. you also have to plant nearly half again as many beans. thats rather expensive. but this works, cause i have helped a neighbor do this and then combine his beans. they did ok.



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Paul in Mich

02-01-2005 09:56:59




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 Re: Farming Question in reply to Avery, 02-01-2005 04:27:28  
Can you broadcast soys? Sure. YOu can broadcast anything. Will you be pleased with the results? Only if you would be pleased with negative results. Here in michigan, we either row crop soys on tilled ground, or drill on tilled ground or no-till drill. Those who row crop swear by it, but those of us who no-till, in most cases yield as much or more than row crop. I prefer no-till because it reduces the number of trips across the field, and it also enhances weed control. The 8 inch spacing of drilling makes it harder for weeds to thrive since the soys shade the areas that weeds would take root, thus starving weeds of sunlight. It is far easier to spray 400 acres of soys per day than cultivate 100 acres or less in the same time. As mentioned, if broadcasting was remotely reasonable, we wouldnt have to spend $50,000 for a drill or planter.

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CNKS

02-01-2005 08:18:00




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 Re: Farming Question in reply to Avery, 02-01-2005 04:27:28  
The reason you can get by with small grains broadcast is that they will tiller and tend to compensate for the erratic stand, soybean will compensate some, but not to the extend that small grains or other crops like grain sorghum will. Even those crops perform better planted with a drill, (grain sorghum with a row crop planter) At a minimum you should use a grain drill, maybe you have a neighbor who will loan you one. Perhaps not as good as a row crop planter, but better than broadcast. Other things equal, you can count on a yield decrease with broadcast.

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JT

02-01-2005 07:22:16




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 Re: Farming Question in reply to Avery, 02-01-2005 04:27:28  
It will work only marginally. You will have a vey poor stand of beans. BY broadcasting and discing you will have very uneven coverage, a lot of seed around spreader and little at fringes on spreder pattern. you will not have any way to pack the gound to get an even seed to dirt contact. You have no way to controll the depth of the seed in the ground. You will have overcrowding in some places and low plant count in others. If this was something that would work, it would be common practice by everyone, a spin spreader is a lot cheaper than a planter or drill.

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gene b

02-01-2005 06:29:17




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 Re: Farming Question in reply to Avery, 02-01-2005 04:27:28  
Thats the way they did it many yrs ago when beans were used for hay. You didnot say what you wanted the crop for. If it is for a cash crop just pay someone who has the correct tillage stuff. Unless like other post said for wildlife then the disc method would be great.



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Hound

02-01-2005 05:59:07




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 Re: Farming Question in reply to Avery, 02-01-2005 04:27:28  
Sure you could do that.....but don't expect the same yields as the neighbors. Like mentioned before me, you couldn't have uniform seed placement regards to spacing (same amount seeds per sq.ft.), depth (your covering method would not cover uniformly). Some plants would have too much or to little fertilizer.(if you fertilized). When you (if you had too) spray you would tramp alot since no rows exist. If you had to spray hire it done and find the largest sprayer that you can find. Harvest -combining you could clip them in any direction. Hound

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Allan in NE

02-01-2005 06:03:32




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 Re: Farming Question in reply to Hound, 02-01-2005 05:59:07  
Hey Hound!

Not to stray from the subject line, but it just dawns on me that I didn't get back to you on your tip about the spinner plow.

That one was a little long in the tooth for my purposes, but I do appreaciate your thinking of me.

Thanks,

Allan



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Hound

02-01-2005 16:27:23




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 Re: Farming Question in reply to Allan in NE, 02-01-2005 06:03:32  
...no problem, you've been busy, I hear lately you've been pricing out buggies :~) Hound



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Andy Martin

02-01-2005 05:41:08




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 Re: Farming Question in reply to Avery, 02-01-2005 04:27:28  
The only reason is that you cannot guarantee seed depth with broadcast and disk and you will not get an even distribution of seed. Both those items will reduce yields, but maybe not too much.

If you are using Roundup ready soybeans there is no need to cultivate and the combine can not tell the difference between rows and broadcast.

Because you asked the question, I suspect you are not really into raising soybeans and may be trying to establish a wildlife plot.

If you are planting for wildlife, you are not going to cultivate and are not really concerned with yield, you just want to get a good stand, so broadcasting is a viable option. For wildlife, however, I'd use mung beans or cow peas as they might be a little better to attract deer and produce a bit better under minimal management.

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moseed

02-01-2005 05:21:09




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 Re: Farming Question in reply to Avery, 02-01-2005 04:27:28  
Rows facilitate cultivation as well as efficient placement of fertilizer and herbicides. The harvesting will be more efficient also. Good luck!



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Novel Idea Guy

02-01-2005 05:15:13




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 Re: Farming Question in reply to Avery, 02-01-2005 04:27:28  
No. Otherwise, that's the way it would be done. Planting in rows not only makes it easier to harvest, it gives each plant more ground to draw nutrients from so they grow stronger and have a higher yield.



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