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Super A Differential Shaft Speedi-Sleeve Size

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Ed Holland

02-01-2005 08:56:18

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The differential shafts have grooves worn in them, so I plan to install Speedi-Sleeves. What C/R part number did any of you use? I measure a shaft diameter of 1.532", but the best match that I can find in the C/R catalog is P/N 99152 for a nominal shaft diameter of 1.523" & range of 1.520 to 1.526. I'm sure someone has done this before. Thanks in advance for your help.

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Super A

02-02-2005 07:45:48

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Re: Super A Differential Shaft Speedi-Sleeve Size in reply to Ed Holland, 02-01-2005 08:56:18

Went thru the same thing with my Super A, mechanic couldn't find a sleeve that was the exact size. Wish he'd have known about heating a smaller sleeve. After a $600 machine shop bill for spray welding and grinding my old shafts, I was ready to go. By all means, use a speedi sleeve if you can make it work!

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brtx

02-01-2005 19:08:32

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Re: Super A Differential Shaft Speedi-Sleeve Size in reply to Ed Holland, 02-01-2005 08:56:18

do not be afraid to use the speedi sleeves or other like products.they have been used on road truck and trailer axles through the years. also used on diesel engine crankshaft and accessory drive applications.if your shaft is grooved real bad you can use a tube type permatex product to ensure oil does not getout between the sleeve and shaft.the speedi sleeve is reusable if the sesl goes bad.stemco had wear rings for years before speedi sleeve. most failures were due to improper failures.many fleets would spec out new trucks with stemco.remember your wheels or tractor do not have the rpms or rod speed .my .02

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Opa A

02-01-2005 17:24:51

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Re: Super A Differential Shaft Speedi-Sleeve Size in reply to Ed Holland, 02-01-2005 08:56:18

I've had to use a speedi sleeve one size too small before. Heated them to about 200 in the wife's oven, they slipped right on and held fast. Still now leaking today. They were for a little bigger shaft size but should still work. My 2 cents.

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Opa A

02-01-2005 17:26:23

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Re: Super A Differential Shaft Speedi-Sleeve Size in reply to Opa A, 02-01-2005 17:24:51

Typo. Still NOT leaking today.

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lee

02-01-2005 15:15:57

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Re: Super A Differential Shaft Speedi-Sleeve Size in reply to Ed Holland, 02-01-2005 08:56:18

Do you have the shafts out? You are certain they measure what you say? Seems like you should be able to locate a sleeve for that. Seems like a standard inch size 1-33/32 but maybe not real common. Check directly with an industrial bearing supplier in your area. They have catalogs of all the manufacturers. Like anything else you can get sleeves made of lots of different materials with different wear characteristics. Some are stainless steel, some are carbon steel, some are plain steel with hard chrome plated wear surface, etc., etc.. I fixed a set of tractor axle shafts with a similar problem once by having an automotive speed shop grind the seal area diameter .015 undersize, installed the same shaft seal and no sleeve. A little less expansion of the new seal lip but they never leaked. One way for you is to have the shafts ground to fit that sleeve you found at 1.523 nominal. It is not uncommon to grind the shafts to prepare for the sleeve.

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Bob

02-01-2005 10:10:57

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Re: Super A Differential Shaft Speedi-Sleeve Size in reply to Ed Holland, 02-01-2005 08:56:18

Use a ring made of stiff wire as a depth stop, so the seals will not be pressed to the bottom of the bores, yet it will be aligned square in the bore. This will make the seal lip wear on a new area of the shaft, and no repair sleeve will be needed.

Before you do that, check where the seal lip is on the new seal, compared to the old seal, Many old seals are now subbed to a more modern, narrower seal, and the seal you have MAY run the lip in a different area, as it is.

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CNKS

02-01-2005 09:18:47

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Re: Super A Differential Shaft Speedi-Sleeve Size in reply to Ed Holland, 02-01-2005 08:56:18

My opinon (and only my opinion), is that for that part, you should have a machine shop fill in the groove. I use speedy sleeves only for parts the turn fast, such as the shafts on the distributer mounted pumps. I'm afraid the machine shop will get the shaft too hotand destroy the temper -- there are methods to avoid that. Having said that, there are more brand names--ie, redi sleeve. If you have a local dealer that specializes in bearings, seals, etc, I bet he can fix you up.

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Ed Holland

02-01-2005 12:55:37

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Re: Super A Differential Shaft Speedi-Sleeve Size in reply to CNKS, 02-01-2005 09:18:47

I'm curious why you don't like a speedi-sleeve for this application. Have you had problems with them?
At my local NAPA they are $30-$35 each, but I don't think a machine shop could fill and regrind for that price. The shafts have multiple, fairly deep grooves, so I don't think repositionong the seal will work. My grandfather bought the tractor new in '49 & I plan to leave it to my son, so I want to do this right.

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CNKS

02-01-2005 13:18:27

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Re: Super A Differential Shaft Speedi-Sleeve Size in reply to Ed Holland, 02-01-2005 12:55:37

I don't object to them. You are correct that a machine shop can't meet that price. My thinking is, and it could be wrong, is that the speedy sleeve will wear faster than if the shaft was filled and reground. In other words a temporary fix. (I would appreciate being corrected by someone who knows, they could be harder for all I know). That said, I considered speedy sleeves for the axle seals on my 460, but I think I got the seal away from the groove, I may have had them machined, but didn't have to make that decision. I would say for your use, they are fine. For what I use them for, high speed shafts, I would be a little leery of them if I used my tractors much, which I don't. So your application is probably safer than mine.

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Bob

02-01-2005 23:28:55

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Re: Super A Differential Shaft Speedi-Sleeve Size in reply to CNKS, 02-01-2005 13:18:27

Don't make things difficult! Speedi-Sleeves are made of HARD stainless steel, and will take longer to wear than the original part!

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