Q for Allan in NE or Hugh McKay

Oh yeah, FYI, on the 1850 loader, it'll lift my 1600lb bales about 6", but won't even budge the 1900 pounders (as weighed by the neighbour that baled them.) them i have to chain and drag. I did verify 1600psig at the pump.

Do you have a pickle fork for that bucket or do you just use a different bucket entirely for the big bales?

Allan

I did however experience same problem with my Farmall 560D as you are having with your 666. Ice crystals block filter to a point that the pump becomes starved for oil. It can completely ruin the hydraulic pump. Hydraulic pumps don't last very long without oil, as it lubricates pump as well as performing hydraulic function. From your discription of starting and warm up, my guess is that your hydraulic pump is allready ruined.

I had a 2000 loader and over the years had it on both 560 and 656. It would lift more on 656. On either tractor it played with 5x6 round bales. From a lift stand point I don't think there was much difference between 1850 and 2000 loaders. I know I had a neighbor couple years back load some items on a truck for me with his 444 and 1550 loader. These were all pallets, and all weighed 1500 lbs. plus the pallet. I can assure you, pallets are just as difficult as round bales. Weight is one matter, but just as important is how far beyond pins of loader bucket that weight is.

Where ya been? Haven't seen ya on here for awhile. :>(

Wow! -40! Dat's too derned cold!

Have you tried the space heater under the belly trick yet?

Nebraska Cowman uses a Hydro 70. Maybe he'll jump in here and share a few pointers with us.

Allan

Yeah, at -40, there just 'taint much of anything that is going to move! :>)

I always liked to use the space heater rather than the #2 diesel burning in an open feed pan. Even tho it worked well, the darned diesel smoke would always turn the underbelly black.

But, you do what you have to do to get those critters fed; they're cold too and need the feed to keep warm.

I used a John Deere Chuck wagon to feed silage with and learned real fast that you don't leave the wagon full of feed overnight. Darned moisture in that silage would freeze the floor & conveyor chains down. :>(

Allan

He claims that after spending 3 hours getting 4 diesels going, then almost a 99% chance of breaking something in extreem cold. Couple that with fact that men using chain saws below -30F can't work hard enough to keep warm, thus the crew usually heads home by noon. When you piece all this together, your mony in to sit by fireside for the day.

Well, that might work with trees, but you don't let cattle go hungry because it is cold outside. Cattle need the feed to generate warmth.

Coldest I've ever seen is -47. Doesn't matter, cattle still got fed, cows still got milked, ice gets chopped outta the tanks. Rest of the day is spent bedding the darlin's with straw.

Things just take a heck of a lot longer when it is cold is all.

Allan

The oil is not milky, and the filter was changed in the fall. I guess I'll have to pull it again.....

Re loader lift capacity, does your loader have a separate hydraulic control valves or is it plumbed into the tractor remotes. If it has a separate control valves the relief valve spring is contained in the screw on cap that is beside the control levers.

I DON'T recommend this unless all your hydraulic hoses are 2000 to 3000 psi rated but you can screw off the cap on the hydraulic control valves and put a couple of dimes behind the spring and this will increase the lift capacity of the loader. Also you require extra weight on the rear of the tractor for stability.

Becareful with those large bales.

JB2