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PPG PAINT CODES

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AC

02-18-2005 13:45:55




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Whats the PPG paint code for IH red for a SMTA?
I work at a shop that has PPG and have access to a complete mixing station, so why not use it...
Thanks, AC




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CNKS

02-18-2005 14:47:26




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 Re: PPG PAINT CODES in reply to AC, 02-18-2005 13:45:55  
71310 is IH 2150, the correct color for post 1949 IH tractors.-- this, if not mixed properly is too orange to my liking. See if your system gives this for Omni MTK acrylic urethane Quantaties are for a gallon:

Code Color Cumul Parts M104 Organic (red) 1184 1184
M134 Quindo V 2118.4 934.4
M130 Orange 2806.8 688.4
M117 Jet Blac 2856.0 49.2
MX195 Accelera 2933.6 77.6
M149 Mixing C 4386.8 1453.2

Also, how much can the guy mixing it mess up without significantly changing the color? I have painted two tractors with IH 2150(71310), one has a slight orange tint, the other heavier orange tint. A DuPont rep says the DuPont color, 96766 has no orange in it--I'm not sure who is correct. The dealer I use has too much turnover and untrained personnel, don't have another supplier close.
If you do this in the near future, I would appreciate hearing from you, either on this board or at cnorwood@wbsnet.org.

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KevinDM

02-19-2005 12:11:12




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 Re: PPG PAINT CODES in reply to CNKS, 02-18-2005 14:47:26  
CNKS: Good info on PPG. All looks correct. Dont forget to ask jobber for spray test cards. they should be cheap or free and will tell you coats to coverage, and verify tint. Next tractor,you'll have no doubt about color match. Too much orange can also be caused by additon of yellow toner.



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CNKS

02-19-2005 14:00:32




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 Re: PPG PAINT CODES in reply to KevinDM, 02-19-2005 12:11:12  
Thanks, but how can I be sure they mixed it right-- do you mean they have a card on file for each color, and I compare it with what they have mixed? Maybe so, but the color always looks different to me after it is sprayed on the tractor. Also this particular color looks ok as it goes on, then fades to orange in a couple or hours. Is the orange, above that you mention, the toner? I know nothing about paint mixing, except that their scale or whatever they use is very sensitive, so that the paint can be matched exactly. I would appreciate further explanation, so I can politely approach the jobber and tell him in a nice way that he is screwing up. Otherwise I have to switch paint brands, and learn a new system. If they can get the color right, PPG's Omni system works very well, and I have no reason to change.

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KevinDM

02-23-2005 09:49:41




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 Re: PPG PAINT CODES in reply to CNKS, 02-19-2005 14:00:32  
CNKS: Sorry you don't have a jobber closer who sells paint only. The test cards I suggested are to protect you from errors on their part. The test card is usually 3x6 with a white half and a black half. When spraying a coat on the tractor, spray a coat on the card. When you get about three coats on tractor and card, take the card out in the sunlight it will tell you if you have coverage. The next time you buy paint, take the card with you and use it to verify the color at the store to be sure they mixed it correctly. My jobber always puts a dab on the lid that you can compare to. In answer to your question about tint, yes, a drop or two of the orange in this formula will indeed shift the tone. The test card will help. Another problem with Omny, is that the jobber is limited in the number of toners that they have for this paint. Jobbers usually don't like to guarantee a 100% match because of this. PPG says that Omny, DAR, or DCC may be clear coated. They only mean that the paints are compatible. If you do clearcoat, and the jobber has made the least little error, the UV'S in the sunlight will pick up that error and magnify it for all to see. That is why at shows we may see blue Farmalls, pink ones and yellow ones. Most of them have been clearcoated. We NEVER clearcoat tractors for this and other reasons. Besides that, they hadn't invented it yet.

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