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Allan in NE

04-06-2005 15:53:15




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Hi All,

This 666 is for sale on ebay. Seems like someone got a little confused when they mounted the front axle? :>)

Allan

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Steve from MO - dangit!

04-07-2005 09:56:42




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 looks like a lotta extra work in reply to Allan in NE, 04-06-2005 15:53:15  
He could have done it correctly with no more effort. Whatta maroon.



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Allan in NE

04-07-2005 10:48:40




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 Re: looks like a lotta extra work in reply to Steve from MO - dangit!, 04-07-2005 09:56:42  
Hmmm,

Dunno. Bet it was bought that way??

Allan



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Hugh MacKay

04-07-2005 07:48:58




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 Re: Upsidedown? in reply to Allan in NE, 04-06-2005 15:53:15  
Allan: Been awhile since I've been up close on a 66 series front end, but I'm thinking that wish bone will strike tractor frame as axle osculates. I'm thinking someone is going to break something if the tractor is worked very long that way. That center tube has proper stops, for osculation, but I think that wishbone will fetch up first.

I don't think it lowers the front end as the pivot pit seems to go through center of the center tube. It may be off a bit. I know in 56 series the pivot was dead center. Looks rather hedious with front set wider than rear tires, plus the tube up side down. My advice, don't hire his mechanic.

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Allan in NE

04-07-2005 08:36:26




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 Re: Upsidedown? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-07-2005 07:48:58  
Yes Sir,

Right on the money and this is why it caught my eye. The stop will only function if the tube is installed correctly.

I wrote the owner and asked him why he mounted it upsidedown and if the axle was cracked. He won't answer me back. Think maybe he doesn't like my arrogant, self-righteous ways. :>)

Don't know why he has the front stretched; if it is for stability, he's defeated his purpose, would seem to me.

Allan

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Hugh MacKay

04-07-2005 12:50:06




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 Re: Upsidedown? in reply to Allan in NE, 04-07-2005 08:36:26  
Allan: Thanks for this photo. Is your tractor front casting tiped to the left far enough the stop has made contact? Must be close. I would think the up side down one may damage tyrods as well. And the angle in which the wishbone will make contact with tractor frame, I tend to believe things are going to break. If his center tube is not cracked already, it probably will be.

Which 66 series tractor front end is that in your current photo? Reason I ask is most had the external cylinder for steering. Did 666 and 686 remain same as 656 with internal power steering? I must admit, I've never paid a lot of attention to 66 and 86 changes. I know they changed the axle to one piece center tube and wishbone. But then any models with narrow front must have used 56 series system for steering. There weren't any narrow fronts came to my neck of the woods after 350 and 450. I have seen 240 and 340 nf, but never a 460 or 560. Interesting as prior to 1958, I could count on fingers of one hand the number of wide fronts I've seen in my home turf.

With my 1066, it was more a case of swearing at the front end as opposed to swearing by it. First year I ran tractor single 20.8x38 with chloride. In our softer eastern soils tractor would leave tracks that cultivator or disk wouldn't smooth out. Drilling or corn planting behind it, I did a lot of growling. The next year I got rid of the chloride and added duals, cured the track problem, then we were beating the crap out of brakes and front end. I threatened many times to buy a front drive unit. I also had the articulated Deere forestry skidder. Did a lot of tillage with that unit. If I were looking at farming again, everything over 100HP would be articulated. If your going to have 4, 6, 8 or more tires out there pulling they may as well all be big ones. The articulateds give such a smooth ride. Harvesters of every description are all going self propelled.

There is a Sugar Beet harvester about tem miles from here, six wheel drive, all steering axles, plus the unit is articulated with a high dump bin for beets on the tandem drive. This outfit is close to 30' long. I pulled in one night with 53' trailer, he was fueling this beet harvester. I asked if I had him hemed in as I was going to off load. When done fueling he came out of there with half the manuvering any 150 hp tractor and pull type implement would have taken. I watched him one day harvesting beets with 6" of snow on ground. Beets were in rows I judge 10" apart. Machine was making about 3.5 to 4 mph, picking up 10' swath of beets. It was putting clean beets in high dump, blowing tops and snow out one side. We investigated to see how many beets he was wasting, couldn't find a beet behind him. This Sugar Beet technology is all new to me, but that machine must make the old ways seem like a wheel barrow.

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migraine

04-06-2005 19:17:19




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 Re: Upsidedown? in reply to Allan in NE, 04-06-2005 15:53:15  
Maybe the front ends stay down better with 'em that way. Plus you wouldn't have to lift the suitcase weights so high and that first step on the ladder would be soooo easy. migraine



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iester

04-06-2005 15:59:24




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 Re: Upsidedown? in reply to Allan in NE, 04-06-2005 15:53:15  
How about out to far or in to far?,<>



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Allan in NE

04-06-2005 16:06:46




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 Re: Upsidedown? in reply to iester, 04-06-2005 15:59:24  
The darned center tube is mounted upsidedown on that ebay tractor. :>)

Allan

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iester

04-06-2005 16:17:08




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 Re: Upsidedown? in reply to Allan in NE, 04-06-2005 16:06:46  
I see what you mean now.Thats a good looking tractor you have there... looks like they have one wheel adjusted out farther than other also.



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Allan in NE

04-06-2005 16:36:23




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 Re: Upsidedown? in reply to iester, 04-06-2005 16:17:08  
Iester,

I've seen that a few times. Being an old row-cropper, it drives me nuts if they aren't both exactly the same. :>)

Allan



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Dixieland

04-06-2005 16:11:41




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 Re: Upsidedown? in reply to Allan in NE, 04-06-2005 16:06:46  
Allen...its a rare low-crop!!!



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Allan in NE

04-06-2005 16:14:05




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 Re: Upsidedown? in reply to Dixieland, 04-06-2005 16:11:41  
Maybe the swing shift on a Friday built that one. :>)

Allan



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