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M 560

04-07-2005 09:07:06




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Will a 560 Block Fit in a M




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the tractor vet

04-07-2005 09:36:22




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 Re: motor swap in reply to M 560, 04-07-2005 09:07:06  
If ya got a welder and a machine shop in your shop then anything will fit.



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M 560

04-07-2005 11:06:02




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 Re: motor swap in reply to the tractor vet, 04-07-2005 09:36:22  
true



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ChadS

04-07-2005 11:22:33




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 Re: motor swap in reply to M 560 , 04-07-2005 11:06:02  
If it fits in the H it will fit in the M. M and the 560 has the same bellhousing bolt pattern, use the 560 engine plate, and 560 frame rails to completly bolt the engine in a stock mannor. As far as I know on the flywheel, and clutch, Id say the 560 flywheel, 560 pressure plate, the clutch disk has to match the M imput shaft spline, and match the diameter of the 560 flywheel/clutch. Double check your measurement on the starter ring on the M (4cyl) and the 560 6 cyl to see if they are the same specs, you may be able to remachine the flywheel, to adapt the M starter ring, and use the stock M starter. Just have to make sure the back spacing is the same from the back of the engine plate, to the back edge of the starter ring. I know on the 460, and the H they both measure 4 inches, all I had to do is change the starter ring on the 460 flywheel to use a H ring. M and 560 mite be the same spacing,,, never measured it to see onthe M's. Chad

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REDEYE

04-07-2005 18:13:37




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 Re: motor swap in reply to ChadS, 04-07-2005 11:22:33  
What is different on the ring gears? teeth? Will the sheetmetal still work with 560 frame rails?



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ChadS

04-08-2005 07:42:25




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 Re: motor swap in reply to REDEYE, 04-07-2005 18:13:37  
The 6 cyl engine is longer than the 4 cyl. therefore the frame rails are longer too. You could do a couple of different ideas,,, You could use the 460-560 front bolster, then be able to use a wide front from the larger series IH tractors,,, Little easier to find that an original IH for the M. Reroute the steering linkage to fit the later model front ends. You could redrill the frame rails to adapt the M front bolster, and lengthen the steering linkage to reach the front. if you do this like that,,, you can still use the stock M radiator, just adapt hoses to it. The front grille will still be in stock form,, Id say you could either lenthen the M hood, No, the stock M sheet metal wont work, cause it would be too short. Now, if you used the 560 front end, you can use all the factory radiator, and front grille from the 460-560, and totally alter the appreance of the tractor to look like a 560. The ring gears are larger in diameter on the 560, and also the tooth count is more than the M. You could totally by pass the entire problem by using a 3 bolt starter bellhousing from the SM Would not have to do anything at all but bolt it together. A 560 is basicly the same as a SM-SMTA-450, just with a 6 cyl. as long as the backspacing matches from the engine plate, to the back edge of the starter ring. Chad

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M 560

04-07-2005 11:38:16




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 Re: motor swap in reply to ChadS, 04-07-2005 11:22:33  
Thanks that helps



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