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Michael Soldan

04-12-2005 15:17:51




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Well about four days ago I was in my big new shed and I decided that I would fire up the H's and let them warm up, charge up the batteries and just check them over, my one H which is usually a little stubborn started on about the third revolution of the starter, the other is a great starter,it caught on the first rev of the starter, sputtered and quit. Well I thought it needed some choke so I spun it over and nothing. I decided to walk away, let it sit.. thinking maybe I flooded it, so I stuck a charger on it and left. Today I decided it would start and nothing doing, spun it over, choked it and no offer. Well that means start troubleshooting, start with fuel , went to the bowl, loosened it off and nothing dribbled out..Old H is bone dry out of gas...Them H's start better with gasoline in the tank..I decided I was a stupid a$$..this time only of course..then there's the time I cleaned the furnace with my wife's vacuum..er..nothing...Mike in Exeter Ontario

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Floyd352

04-13-2005 14:35:53




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 Re: True Confessions, Join In in reply to Michael Soldan, 04-12-2005 15:17:51  
My wife thinks I have volintary alshemers when it comes to tractors. Yes I ran them out of gas and left the switch on, run them out of gas and couldn't figure out why they stopped.The worst ones were doing a cap, points, wires,and plugs. After pulling the beast up and down the road, cause I killed the battery. My helper and I went in for dinner and there an the table is the rotor.the one that terrifies me was the time I didn't check to see if I was in neutral while working and the tractor jumped back distroying a hay elevator. Of course it belonged to my father inlaw. To bad I didn't think to blame it on the kids, Nach the wife has lots to say about it

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captaink

04-13-2005 07:24:50




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 Re: True Confessions, Join In in reply to Michael Soldan, 04-12-2005 15:17:51  
I have two for you guys.

A couple of weeks ago, I jumped in my maintainer and turned the key to the start position, but nothing happened. Couldn’t figure it out, batteries were up, but nothing was happening when I turned the key to the start position. Finally jumped the solenoid with a piece of wire, and it fired right up! Now to figure out why! I started tracing wires, safety switches, etc. I finally went to the parts book and started looking at wiring diagrams, parts, etc and noted that there was a start switch. It took a couple of seconds for the gray matter to kick in, but I finally remembered that there was a separate start button on the side of the cowling for the dash that actually was the START button. I crawled back in and hit the button and the old girl fired to life! Course it might have helped if I had had snow to push this winter to keep me refreshed. :>)

The other one was back when I was a lot younger. I pulled my prize car into the shop to do an oil change/tune up. Of course the first thing I did was drop the oil, and then I proceeded to pull the plugs, distributor cap, points, etc. I got the tune up almost done and got called away to do something else. I got back to the car, hooked up the timing light, jumped in and fired it up. I got out and started walking to the front of the car when I saw the drain plug lying on the floor! Yup, you guessed it; I forgot to put oil in it! :<( I shut it off, finished the oil change and crossed my fingers. No serious damage was done. The engine is taking a sabbatical right now, but had about 280,000 miles on the crank and it was still standard size.

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Richard G.

04-13-2005 06:58:36




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 Re: True Confessions, Join In in reply to Michael Soldan, 04-12-2005 15:17:51  
When I was about 15 I was driving my dad"s 64 Chevy 6 cylinder pickup and was close to home when it ran out of gas. Walked home and found a gallon jug of what I thought was lawnmower gas and poured it in.
Trucked cranked but ran poorly. Got home and later dad asked what happened to the DDT and diesel fuel he had mixed up to kill bugs.
The truck ran for another 20 years but was never quite the same.

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RustyFarmall

04-13-2005 07:02:32




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 Re: True Confessions, Join In in reply to Richard G., 04-13-2005 06:58:36  
Yes but I'll bet you did a real good job of "de-bugging" the engine.



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Steve from MO - dangit!

04-13-2005 06:32:13




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 Are ya sure ya wanna know? in reply to Michael Soldan, 04-12-2005 15:17:51  
Sheesh! All of the dumb things I have done, even lately? I guess allowing Express Scripts access to my bank account would be the most recent unintended act of stupidity on my part.



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terryjd

04-13-2005 00:52:52




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 Re: True Confessions, Join In in reply to Michael Soldan, 04-12-2005 15:17:51  
Trying to start the tractor and not thinking to check if there is any gas in it or turn on the fuel seems to be something that everybody does at least once. In the Fall when changing the oil in my SC I got the oil drained, filter changed, was pouring the new oil in the top and heard something, glanced down and all that nice new oil was comming out the bottom. Forgot to put the plug back in the pan. Lucky still had the pan of old oil under the tractor and it was big enough to hold the gallon of new oil I poured through the tractor.

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David in UT

04-12-2005 21:36:26




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 Re: True Confessions, Join In in reply to Michael Soldan, 04-12-2005 15:17:51  
Ok, I've got two good confessions for you, one on the tractor subject and one off topic.

On my first real restoration job, I was ready to reattach the engine/flywheel to the bell housing. Never having done this before, it would have been prudent to ask a couple of my neighbors for some assistance. Did I do that? Nahhh....I can figure this out, right? Long story short: I didn't realize that the splines on the drive shaft weren't lined up with those of the clutch plate. If you put enough torque on those bolts, something's gonna give. Yep, I've got a seriously cracked C-113 block sitting in a storage shed as a reminder of being stupid and not asking for help.

Second confession has to do with an older hobby of bicycle racing. I had a very cool custom Italian bike that I would put on a car roof rack...one of those where you take the front wheel off, then anchor the front fork down along with the rear wheel. Well, that's a great setup IF YOU REMEMBER TO TAKE THE BIKE OFF THE CAR BEFORE DRIVING INTO THE GARAGE. Bike #1 was toast. The reason why I say "Bike #1" is that six months later I did the same thing with the replacement bike! After that, I decided that I wasn't smart enough to have a nice bike, so I gave up riding for eight years. (I now only carry my bike on a rear-mounted rack.)

Just last night, I did another one... I was welding up a frame for a BBQ grill, and I had two legs of one length, and two legs of another length with holes drilled in the ends for a shaft that would be used by two wheels. Even after double checking what I was doing, I ended up welding the legs on in completely the wrong order...gotta cut it apart and start over this weekend. Ug.

Jeez, this posting ended up being awfully depressing...think I'm going to bed. Blech.

- David

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Kelly C

04-12-2005 21:33:01




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 Re: True Confessions, Join In in reply to Michael Soldan, 04-12-2005 15:17:51  
The only one of mine I have not run out of gas is my 400.

My H I have run her out once and have forgotten to turn on the in line valve 3 times.
You know I have run a few cars out of gas and its funny how a farmall runs out. They just run great then just cut out and wont start back up.
Every time I get fooled its a electrical problem.
At least a car will sputter a little before she goes.
My 460's the same just off. No worning no nothing just stops.
Now after more time spent trouble shooting Than I will admit to here in public. I 1st check the gas tank now.

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Paul in Mich

04-12-2005 18:41:15




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 Re: True Confessions, Join In in reply to Michael Soldan, 04-12-2005 15:17:51  
Well, Mike, I did sort of a Hybred between you and Hugh. My float sticks open every now and then on my H, so last summer I had it at a show and it ran what gas it had out through the bottom of the carb. The next day I went to start it and practically ran the battery down to nothing before I decided to look in the gas tank only to find it had emptied itself. After I went and got 5 gal. of gas and poured back in the tractor My short term solution, short of fixing the carb, was to shut the fuel off at the sediment bulb and let the H run till it ran the fuel line out of gas. The problem was that I forgot to shut the kill switch off after the tractor died so the next day when I went to start it I had plenty of gas, but the battery was dead as a door nail. Fixing the float is still on my to do list, as I haven"t taken the time to pull it off and fix it, so I"m sure there is probably more trouble brewing right around the corner.

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Hugh MacKay

04-13-2005 04:05:27




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 Re: True Confessions, Join In in reply to Paul in Mich, 04-12-2005 18:41:15  
Paul: Actually you may have hit a nail on the head. Two weeks ago when Marg. called me away from what I was doing, I don't recall ever getting to tractor. All winter, each time I plowed snow with 130, I would back it in, turn off gas and let it run out. This winter my 130 would leak through carb sometimes, but not always. Usually I would close large door and by that time tractor would stop. I had never forgotten switch all winter. I can't rule that out for the last time.

Funny part is wives will blame this on old age, we did just as stipid tricks at 30. Back then, with a house full of kids she just never noticed.

One day 30 years ago, my dad sent word from field he wanted me to ride back of baler for some minor adjustments. He was baling near my house, thus I parked my old binder pickup 20' behind our car. Marg. came out of house, our own 3 kids, 3 neighbors kids and her mother who was a back seat driver. She promptly backed into the old binder,and that was my fault.

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Kelly C

04-13-2005 05:13:04




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 Re: True Confessions, Join In in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-13-2005 04:05:27  
That was your fault Hugh. You know how ladies back up. Put it into rev, Hit the gas, Then look back.
Never never never park behind a woman.
My old boss went through 2 Caddies because of this same thing.
I give my wife a wide bearth when she is parked.



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Hugh Mac Kay

04-13-2005 05:41:16




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 Re: True Confessions, Join In in reply to Kelly C, 04-13-2005 05:13:04  
Kelly: My good better half would normally never let this happen. My thoughts were the 6 kids under 10 years, and the back seat driver. By the way the back seat driver never drove in her life.



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Don L C

04-12-2005 21:43:11




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 Re: True Confessions, Join In in reply to Paul in Mich, 04-12-2005 18:41:15  
Tap the side of the carb.with a small hammer..... that may move the float over on its pin..... .H's and M's had this problem....



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wh

04-12-2005 18:15:26




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 Re: True Confessions, Join In in reply to Michael Soldan, 04-12-2005 15:17:51  
neighbor has a original farmall m he bought new in 1946 . tractor is in great shape -never really been worked all that hard. last year he called and said it would not run. he had it in the yard. checked and found it had a dead coil. got a new one and it still would not fire. then found the condensor was dead. new points/condensor/went ahead and put new plugs in also. had fire everywhere - still no run. ask him when he had put gas in it - answer was "the evening before it went dead -was going to mow the pasture with it and it would not crank the next morn". checked the tank and sure enough - DRY as a bone. he figured the neighbors 16 year old with a new car had got it. said that for last few weeks it seemed that his tractors sure was using more gas than they should.

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Hugh MacKay

04-13-2005 03:39:24




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 Re: True Confessions, Join In in reply to wh, 04-12-2005 18:15:26  
wh: I remember a guy 20 miles from me about 35 years ago was having much the same problem. He was awakened in night by noise in yard. Went to bedroom window and in moonlight he could see three guys trying to syphon gas from his new Ford sedan. Forget the model back then but same thing as Crown Vic. Top of the line car.

He decided to get rifle and fire shot to scare these thievs off. He aimed to have bullet hit ground about 20' from them. Problem, he slipped as he fired, bullet went through back fender of the car, through the fuel tank and he lost all his gas anyhow. Lucky, no fire and no one go hurt. I understand that ended gas stealing at his place.

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6N's Short

04-12-2005 18:03:26




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Must be something in the air. I been working on this 2N someone gave me. Had running for a good while, parked it and next day it won't start. New to this tractor so I am looking for all kinds of problems. Couple of days now it will start and then die right off. Really puzzled. My little girl came by while I was looking at it the other day and asked, does it have gas? I think you know the rest....

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John M

04-12-2005 17:52:10




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Got em all beat!Bought 2 Ms about 10 years ago,Was told one had a bad tranny,the other a bad enigne.So me being all excited to get one good one,I began tearing down one to fix the other.Once I got done with one,it hit me.There was nothing wrong with the one I tore down.Lesson,dont listen to old men who have a bottle in their back pocket when the yare wheeling and dealing!



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James L. Babcock

04-12-2005 17:42:21




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I've never done this to my Farmalls, but I was helping my neighbor get his 8N Ford going and fueled her up. I remember thinking that the "gas" fumes sure weren't very strong but I thought the wind was just blowing the fumes away. Well, I was pouring diesel into it. She sure ran ragged for a while, but I don't think we did any damage. I knew we could get away with it because about 25yrs earlier I had done the same thing to a Ford (I see a pattern) school bus that we hauled baby chickens in. I thought I had really screwed up big time, but it was a hot day, we were loaded to the max with chicks, and the boss said move 'em out before the chicks start to pile up on each other. That old Ford smoked, belched and protested mightily, but we got the chicks to the brooder house and that old bus ran for many more years.

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caseyc

04-12-2005 17:06:39




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 Re: True Confessions, Join In in reply to Michael Soldan, 04-12-2005 15:17:51  
well as some of you know i put a headgasket in my 706 two winters ago. last winter it went to missing again and rather then check plugs and wires i went straight to a compression test because that's how i found the problem last time. #5 was low so i parked it till warmer weather and froze my butt off on the 766 all winter. (706 has a cab and 766 does not) come the first nice day in march i decided to tear into it. just to make sure #5 was the bad one i pulled the plug wire...there was a big change. after another min of pulling wires #1 ended up being the dead cylinder. swapped plugs to anothe hole and the miss followed. put all new plugs in and she runs great!!! definetly not my shining moment for being a young but seasoned mechanic.

casey in SD

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Jeff In Ontario

04-12-2005 16:55:57




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Mike:
I completely understand! Sunday afternoon I got the H out to pull start the W4 which had sat all winter. Had my dad pull me back & forth on the driveway about 3 times and the W4 didn"t even try to fire up. It was then that i remembered that I hadn"t turned the fuel on.... boy did I feel stupid...my dad just shook his head .
By the way do you or Hugh know anything about Avery tractors? I bought one the other day and haven"t got the slightest clue where to get parts from. (I know, I know , it"s the wrong shade of red..)

Jeff

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Michael Soldan

04-13-2005 05:19:01




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 Re: True Confessions, Join In in reply to Jeff In Ontario, 04-12-2005 16:55:57  
Jeff, Averys are good little tractors, I have come across a few, see lots at the Blythe steam show. Our Buddy Steve at Ontario Used Tractor Parts will be able to help you out on what you need. I went over to my son in laws one afternoon to get my Case310 back and I couldn't start it so I had to leave it there. Turns out he shut the fuel off, something I never do unless there is a leak....Mike



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Yugrotcart

04-12-2005 17:21:42




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Avery was bought up by MM. I have a repair manual here that I bought for the Z I had, it covers some Avery models.



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williamf

04-12-2005 16:54:05




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 OK, OK in reply to Michael Soldan, 04-12-2005 15:17:51  
I admit it. And not long ago. I parked my (non-IH) diesel TLB. Outside. Decided to put a 5 gallon can of fuel in the tank. Opened the tank, looked in it, decided there wasn't room for 5 gallons (it's a light drinker). Put the fuel can away, went to the house. That night there was a widely predicted thunderstorm. Next morning I'm out there rigging up a siphon to try to get the water out of the fuel tank that I had Alzheimerously left the cap off.
Wm

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Hugh MacKay

04-12-2005 15:52:11




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Michael: If it will make you feel any better, I went to shop yesterday, approached 130 and discovered switch was on. Two weeks ago I did same thing, Marg. called me to phone and I never got back to tractor, however I had turned switch on. As you can well imagine yesterday was dead battery day, didn't even have enough life for a crank start. My booster cables weren't around, I was alone, so tow starting was out. Then it hit me I have a couple 10 gauge wires with clips on them. Got the 140 going, moved it close enough to 130, to couple up pos to pos and neg to neg. Then I had enough power for hand cranking, she fired right up. I really hadn't told anyone until now. I call it just a bit forgetful, was afraid of getting,"old and stupid". So now I am relieved I can tell you.

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TomH

04-12-2005 19:03:29




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 Re: True Confessions, Join In in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-12-2005 15:52:11  
Hmmm. I'd rather not think about the times I've run the tractor out of gas and walked away without turning off the ignition.



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Yugrotcart

04-12-2005 15:21:37




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LOL, takes a brave and honest man to admit something like that..... ..... ..... .



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kfox

04-13-2005 06:41:47




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My latest blunder didn't have anything to do with fuel or switches - it's worse than that. I've been working on my 41 H for a couple of weeks now, and when I was finishing up a couple of days ago and getting ready to put the hood back on, I remembered that I wanted to turn the bracket over that holds the temp & oil gauges. The hood had two smiley face holes wore in the bulges in the hood from rubbing on the corner of the gauges & brackets. The way the bracket was made it looked like it should be turned upside down to clear the hood. I had to drain the oil out of the steering gear, and drain the anti-freeze so I could remove the temperture gauge sensor & remove the steering shaft. I'm afraid to even touch the radiator drain, so I took the drain plug out of the side of the block, while holding a 5 gal bucket to catch the anti-freeze. Not good enough...The antifreeze doesn't drain out, it squirts out about 4 feet with at least 50 lbs/sq. ft pressure. Got a good antifreeze bath. Also, the steering gear box doesn't drain, it runs down the front bolster all over the frt tires. OK got the bracket turned over, the mess cleaned up, oil & anti-freeze back in and put the hood on. Now I can only see the top 1/3 of the gauges. Some day, I gotta go through all this again, but for now, it's gonna work. ken

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