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mjf

04-15-2005 04:23:58




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I don't know where else to post this question, and you guys seem to have a ton of answers on most issues dealing with old equipment, so here goes... I have been given an old Lincoln welder, tag along, that was made sometime in the mid to late 60's. Supposed the welder worked until the day it was replaced, but after sitting for a number of years, it will no longer start. No spark. It has a continental gas engine with a mag. I would like to replace the mag with a distributor, and the mount looks similar to a C123 Farmall, like in my Super C. The tag on the Continental engine reads "Code - 1668, Engine number - 303249". It has a flat head like an old ford. Anyone know what size engine this is, and if a farmall distibutor would fit in place of the mag? If so, which distibutor should I be looking for?
Thanks in advance for any advice.

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El Toro

04-15-2005 08:27:33




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 Re: OT: Continental engine in reply to mjf, 04-15-2005 04:23:58  
That engine was used on Oliver tractors and in sailboats too. That FM mag will start that engine very easily once you get it firing. Your local auto parts store may have the points and condenser. You will need the mag model number.
Any problems finding them call Borg Warner at 1-800-566-8334 for your nearest dealer. They bought out Niehoff Ignition parts. Hal



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Bob M

04-15-2005 05:35:35




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 Re: OT: Continental engine in reply to mjf, 04-15-2005 04:23:58  
I agree with Hal - try first to get the magneto working. Clean and regap the points to .013 and there's an excellent chance it will become hot again.

However if you decide to swap for a distributor, check with your local forlift supplier. That Continental flat 4 was the standard engine in most forklift trucks for 30+ years. There's still tens of thousands of them in service so parts should be easy to find. (If memory serves it uses a Delco distributor)

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El Toro

04-15-2005 05:17:23




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 Re: OT: Continental engine in reply to mjf, 04-15-2005 04:23:58  
Try Foley Engines at info@foleyengines.com. They sell Continental engine parts.

Why not repair the mag that's on the engine. It probably just needs points and a condenser. Clean those points that's in the mag and see if it
has any fire then. Use a point file or 400 grit emery cloth and rub them until nice and shiny. Try setting the gap at .013. Any name tag on mag?
I wouldn't pull that mag unless you make a note where the rotor is pointing and do not move the engine then. You do not want to get it out of time. Hal

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mjf

04-15-2005 05:50:03




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 Re: OT: Continental engine in reply to El Toro, 04-15-2005 05:17:23  
Thanks for the info.
The only markings I could find on the mag without removing it were either "EM" or "FM" on the center of the cap, where the coil wire would go on a distributor.
We are going to continue to tinker around with the mag. Just hoping for a shortcut to get it running. I much prefer to use a distibutor instead of a mag, but that is due solely to familiarity with the former and ignorance of the latter.
Thanks again.

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Bob M

04-15-2005 06:35:58




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 Re: OT: Continental engine in reply to mjf, 04-15-2005 05:50:03  
"FM" is a Fairbanks Morse magneto. Parts are readily available, and aside from the impulse coupling they are no more complicated nor difficult to work on than a distributor.

Once again try first cleaning the points and see if it throws a spark!



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Bob

04-15-2005 06:24:42




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 Re: OT: Continental engine in reply to mjf, 04-15-2005 05:50:03  
MOST Fairbanks-Morse mags run a .020" point gap, unlike the .013" gap on the common IH magnetos.

If you really want to go to battery ignition, a tractor boneyard should have a Delco or IH distributor conversion that will fit. MOST magnetos execept Deere turn the same direction, so common conversion units for other engines will work on your engine.

There will be some variances between distributors in the mechanical advance calibration, but unless absolutely top HP and fuel economy are at the top of your list, you'll probably never notice any difference between various units. Take note of the distance between the mag mounting flange and the outside edge of the drive lugs on the impulse, and make sure that distance matches your new distributor, as there are "long lug" and "short lug" magnetos.

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