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RICK FROM VT

04-26-2005 15:35:45




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I have a super c and just purchased at oction a cub....does anyone know how much either of them weigh? I want to buy a trailer to haul them on and want to make sure it will carry the weight.
Also, the cub has a tendency to pop out of gear in reverse, any thoughts ?




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Jim Becker

04-27-2005 20:32:00




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 Re: TRAILER in reply to RICK FROM VT, 04-26-2005 15:35:45  
Take the top cover off the Cub transmission and look inside. You will probably find a broken R-1 fork. With luck, maybe it will just be loose on the rod.



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John M

04-26-2005 17:47:15




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 Re: TRAILER in reply to RICK FROM VT, 04-26-2005 15:35:45  
Go with one thats a little heavier,maybe a 14000 and long enough to put both on it.Make sure it has brakes on each axle,and if electric make sure you get a good quality controller.GO HEAVIER THAN YOU NEED!You wont go wrong.



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farmall300u

04-26-2005 17:24:51




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 Re: TRAILER in reply to RICK FROM VT, 04-26-2005 15:35:45  
Cub at 1430lbs and Super C at 2900lbs + more if the tires are loaded. Plain tractors at 4330 lbs + any calcuim in tires.

7000 lb trailer will more than handle both tractors. Just get the Super C on first.



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gordon hulgan

04-26-2005 17:03:48




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 Re: TRAILER in reply to RICK FROM VT, 04-26-2005 15:35:45  
Everybody talk about Axles rateing. that right. but you to have the right ply tire on the trailer. if not your backing up. Have Safey day.



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old

04-26-2005 15:54:32




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 Re: TRAILER in reply to RICK FROM VT, 04-26-2005 15:35:45  
I hual all my tractors on a twin axle 16 foot car hualing trailor, I've hualed Farmall H,B,300U, Oliver 77s,OC-3, Fords 8Ns 801s, MH 101SR etc any how it has worked with no problems and the OC-3 is around 6000lbs and the axles are rated at 3500lbs each which means I was over loaded a little with the OC-3



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RustyFarmall

04-26-2005 15:44:07




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 Re: TRAILER in reply to RICK FROM VT, 04-26-2005 15:35:45  
Can't tell you for sure on the weight but a trailer with a 14,000 pound capacity would be more than enough, while a 7,000 pound capacity would not be enough. 14,000 pound trailers are plentiful, should be relatively easy to find a deal on one.



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7700 GVWR

04-26-2005 16:45:11




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 Re: TRAILER in reply to RustyFarmall, 04-26-2005 15:44:07  
Why wouldn't a typical tandem axle car hauler be enough? They're plenty fine for a 5000lb car, why not for a 3000lb (Super C) or 2000lb (Cub) tractor? It's not like he's trying to haul an M or something like that...

Yes, I'm aware that that the GVWR of a trailer includes the weight of the trailer. Let's say the trailer weighs a ton. Okay, you've got 5000lb+ worth of useful payload capacity left. That's USEFUL payload capacity. If a trailer is rated for 7700lbs, then it has to be able to weigh 7700 pounds and travel down the road at speed safely. You can shirk the government regulations, but there's no getting away from personal injury lawyers.

A 14000lb trailer? Yeah, then you gotta buy a tandem axle dump truck to pull it.

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i agree...

04-26-2005 20:51:23




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 Re: TRAILER in reply to 7700 GVWR, 04-26-2005 16:45:11  
if the weights are correct as stated above then the combined weight is only around 5000 lbs! a tandam car trailer with twin 3500lb axles maybe 16 or 18' long would be plenty of trailer and a 1/2 ton pickup will handle it fine. just my feelings.

casey



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RustyFarmall

04-27-2005 05:03:48




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 Re: TRAILER in reply to i agree..., 04-26-2005 20:51:23  
The point I was trying to make is that a 7,000 pound trailer will handle the load, but will be maxed out, and what happens if one or both of those tractors has wheel weights or fluid filled tires? If that happens, then your 7,000 pound trailer suddenly becomes overloaded and is no longer safe, or legal. The facts are that a 14,000 pound rated trailer will not be any more costly than a lighter trailer, and you can get one of those in a bumper hitch configuration also. If the heavy trailer does not cost any more than the light trailer, why would you go with a light duty trailer? And no, you don't need a tandem axle dump truck to pull it!! Where the heck do some of you guys get your information? I hope and pray that I don't ever have to share the road with some of you guys.

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CNKS

04-28-2005 08:22:25




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 Re: TRAILER in reply to RustyFarmall, 04-27-2005 05:03:48  
Rusty, I don't disagree with you -- It is very important that the load be matched to the truck, transmission, etc as I was asking about in my previous post. The 14000 GVW ones will cost more than the 7500 GVW ones, probably only a few hundred dollars--not worth the savings to buy a light one provided you can pull the heavier one. However they weigh about 1000 lbs more -- I rent trailers, the rental place insisted I use a 14000 GVW or so (don't remember the exact rating), when I bought my 4000 lb Super H (no fluid in tires, one set of weights), that I had to tow about 350 miles. He said it would pull easier because of less rolling resistance due to larger tires (mostly baloney). That's 7000 lbs, including the 3000 lb trailer, my half ton is rated for about 6500, it did not like that much weight. Would have had 6000 lbs with the 7500 GVW trailer, should have ignored the dealer and done that. Otherwise you are correct about the heavier duty trailers, as long as you have the correct vehicle to pull it with.

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