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S M 12 VOLT SYSTEM

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CLAYTON

04-28-2005 09:55:45




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I HAVE A 2 WIRE DELCO ALT. 12 VOLT NEG.GROUND SYSTEM AND IGNITION SWITCH WON"T STOP THE MOTOR IN OFF POSITION {NEW KEY SWITCH}. HAVE BEEN TOLD I NEED A 50 VOLT 1AMP DIODE BETWEEN #1 CONNECTION ON ALT. AND IGNITION SWITCH . NAPA AUTO PARTS HAS THEM , BUT NEED TO KNOW WHICH TO BUY, NEG. OR POS SYSTEM. DOES THIS MEAN NEG GROUND ON MY TRACTOR WOULD USE A NEG. DIODE ? IS THEIR A PARTS # FROM NAPA THAT IS CORRECT? THANKS FOR ANY INFO. CLAYTON

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jossette

04-28-2005 11:17:14




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 Re: S M 12 VOLT SYSTEM in reply to CLAYTON, 04-28-2005 09:55:45  
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sounds like you have the alternator wires crossed?? heres a little help for ya..



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Bob

04-28-2005 11:07:35




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 Re: S M 12 VOLT SYSTEM in reply to CLAYTON, 04-28-2005 09:55:45  
You can get a "side marker light", with a #194 bulb in it, and wire it in series with the wire to the #1 terminal on the alternator. You can hide it under the hood, out of sight, if you want. The filament resistance of this bulb will limit the backfeed of current to a level that will not operate the ignition, so the tractor will shut off, as it's supposed to. The original design of this alternator was for use with an "idiot light" that serves the same function in the excite circuit.

If you want use a diode, go to a place like Radio Shack, and get a 2.5 Amp 1000 PIV diode, and connect it into the excite line. (Will cost between $.50 and $2.00.) This diode will be a little black plastic cylinder, with a white band at one end. The white band is the CATHODE, and the lead from this end of the diode goes TO the #1 alternator terminal. By the specs of this diode, it should be more than adequate, but after an odd failure or two, for years, I have used two of them in parallel. Put them side by side, with the white bands at them same end, twist the leads together, connect them into the "excite" wire with a couple of crimp "butt" connectors, on cover with a length of heat shrink. I've had NO failures using this method.

Also, a local automotive electrical shop should have available a connector that fits the alternator with pigtails attached, with the diode already in place, just for these conversions.

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Jonesy

04-28-2005 12:04:01




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 Re: S M 12 VOLT SYSTEM in reply to Bob, 04-28-2005 11:07:35  
I picked up a chrome panel-mount light that fit into the fuse holder hole on the electrical box of my H. It's kinda neat to have an idiot light come on when you pull the ignition switch and go out when you rev 'er up for the first time.



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CLAYTON

04-28-2005 20:50:15




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 Re: S M 12 VOLT SYSTEM in reply to Jonesy, 04-28-2005 12:04:01  
THANKS TO ALL OF YOU GUYS FOR YOUR RESPONSE.I REALLY HAVE A GOOD DIAGRAM NOW AND UNDER STAND THIS SYSTEM MUCH BETTER. I DID"NT HAVE A SUITABLE LIGHT SO WENT TO THE LOCAL RADIO SHACK AND BOUGHT THE TWO DIODES FOOR ABOUT .80 CENTS, PUT THEM IN LINE AS DISCRIBED . BOY DOES IT WORK GREAT AND AFTER RUNING FOR A WHILE THE DIODES WERE NOT HOT AND THE MOTOR SHUT OFF WHEN KEY TURNED OFF. THANKS AGAIN. YOU ALL SUR CAME THRU FOR ME. CLAYTON

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