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Farmall C Pistons Stuck Rods Stuck, too

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PurdueAg

04-29-2005 20:27:53




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When I had stuck pistons on my H, I just
removed the rod caps and pushed the rods away from the crankshaft. Then I could put a block of wood in and hammer them from above to break them free. But the rods on my C are positioned in such a way that they are locked onto the shaft even with
the caps removed. This creates a problem because I can"t hammer on the pistons from above, and I can"t get the crankshaft off either. I have the ridges reamed. Should I be tapping from the bottom? My main concern is that
hammering from the bottom does not allow even distribution of the blow and might damage the pistons. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Tony

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El Toro

04-30-2005 11:22:41




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 Re: Farmall C Pistons Stuck Rods Stuck, too in reply to PurdueAg, 04-29-2005 20:27:53  
You need to drive from the bottom. Those wet sleeves will come out with the piston if they're stuck tight. I had the same thing with a Farmall
A that has the same engine. If that happens you can heat them with a torch to get trhe pistons out. You are probably going to need a new sleeve and piston kit anyway.

Where are you located? I would tell you to load up that engine and I would help you take it apart.
Hal

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El Toro

04-30-2005 03:53:13




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 Re: Farmall C Pistons Stuck Rods Stuck, too in reply to PurdueAg, 04-29-2005 20:27:53  
You need to pour some transmission fluid into each cylinder and let it soak. You do not want to
hammer around the crankshaft with anything that's metal. Use a piece of oak that's long enough and tap on that, but don't hit so hard you may damage the block. I don't think those pistons or sleeves
should be used. It's a lot easier to work on if you pull the engine. Then you may be able to remove the crankshaft so you some clearance to work on the pistons. A lot of times the sleeve will come out with piston and then I used a torch to heat the sleeve. You need to patient too.
Hal

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PurdueAg

04-30-2005 06:35:23




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 Re: Farmall C Pistons Stuck Rods Stuck, too in reply to El Toro, 04-30-2005 03:53:13  
Thanks for the info. I have the engine pulled off the tractor. The crank pulley is not something I want to tackle (I was going to let the machine shop tackle that for me. I read on the archives that I could take off the crankshaft without removing the pulley if I left the cover plate on. Now, I have never pulled a crankshaft before, but I assume that i have to be able to move it either forward or backward to get it to drop out? If that's the case, I can't because the rods are still locked onto it (even without the caps). If the crankshaft can be dropped straight down, what do I do to remove it? I have the IH Shop manual, but so far it hasn't been particularly helpful... Thanks for the help!

Tony

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PurdueAg

04-30-2005 07:10:29




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 Re: Farmall C Pistons Stuck Rods Stuck, too in reply to El Toro, 04-30-2005 06:59:45  
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Thanks for the info. If I get the pulley off, can I drop the crankshaft straight down, or will I still have to be able to move ot back and forth to shimmey if out of there. The darned rods are jammed in place on the crank. When I worked on the H, the crank was stuck / positioned in such a way that I could push the rods away from the crank.

The outer center area of the pulley (where the "key hole" is is broken off. I can't see where the bolt is that attaches the pulley to the crankshaft.

I'll bet that thing is going to be a b****. The tractor is in pretty bad shape, and has set out for years.

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El Toro

04-30-2005 07:37:50




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 Re: Farmall C Pistons Stuck Rods Stuck, too in reply to PurdueAg, 04-30-2005 07:10:29  
Someone may have removed the damper bolt, look to see if any threads are in the crankshaft, I'm sure there should be. You do not want to pull
on the outer edges of the pulley, this may break
your pulley where the metal is thin. Squirt plenty of that tranny juice on both sides of those pistons since you have the engine pulled.
Using that 2X2 oak tap on those pistons to get them moving a little. Rust probably has them seized from being left in the weather so it's going to take awhile. Hal

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PurdueAg

04-30-2005 06:39:18




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 P.S. in reply to PurdueAg, 04-30-2005 06:35:23  
I forgot to mention that I have been soaking the cylinders with both PB Blast and Kersone (alternatively, not simultaneously) for about 2 weeks or so.



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El Toro

04-30-2005 07:43:06




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 Re: P.S. in reply to PurdueAg, 04-30-2005 06:39:18  
Some of the postings on here on freeing stuck engines have used a little diesel oil and then set
the oil on fire. If you're thinking about doing
this be very careful and have the engine away from
any buidings and have a fire extinguisher handy too. Heat is what you need if the oil doesn't help. Hal



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