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Rebuilt A starts and dies immediately

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Georgia Boy

06-04-2005 06:57:19




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I spent the last year restoring and rebuilding a 46 A. This week I am trying to get her cranked but the engine will fire immediately and die after only a few revolutions. It will fire everytime I try after it dies. I rebuilt the carb, have good fuel flow to the carb and I have double checked the timing. I can't think of anything else to do except to break open the carb again and see if anything is amiss. Does anybody have any suggestions of what I should look for next? Also, am I right in that the C113 engine fires at TDC and has no timing advance? Thanks, guys.

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Georgia Boy

06-04-2005 12:18:58




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 Success! in reply to Georgia Boy, 06-04-2005 06:57:19  
I got her cranked and running! I DID have the valves a little tight, I had set them at .014 when cold so I reset them to .020 for now, and am about to check them again now that she is warm. I also double checked the idle adjustment screw and the main jet adjustment screw, both of which were not set right. But, I believe the big problem was that I had to advance the throttle 2/3, so I've got some fiddlin' to do with that. Thanks for the suggestions, guys. She do sound good!

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Wayne Swenson

06-04-2005 11:51:52




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 Re: Rebuilt A starts and dies immediately in reply to Georgia Boy, 06-04-2005 06:57:19  
Use a tester to determine if there is voltage at the coil input when you turn on the switch. If not, temporarily run a jumper wire from the hot post on the battery or starter to the primary input side of the coil. (small terminal opposite the one attached to the points)
If the engine now continues to run, you have a wiring problem with the switch. Have you converted to 12 volt?



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John M

06-04-2005 08:05:34




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 Re: Rebuilt A starts and dies immediately in reply to Georgia Boy, 06-04-2005 06:57:19  
Just guessing but you did wire it back up right?Sounds like you have the hot wire TO the switch for dist. coming off of the starter side of your starter switch.,instaed of the battery side.



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P Backus

06-04-2005 07:44:21




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 Re: Rebuilt A starts and dies immediately in reply to Georgia Boy, 06-04-2005 06:57:19  
Battery ignition units with a resistor have a bypass so the coil gets full voltage when cranking the engine for a hotter spark, and then reverts to the resistor as soon as the start circuit is open. Could be that something is wrong with the resistor or in that circuit. Do you have spark when cranking by hand?
Paul



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El Toro

06-04-2005 07:39:42




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 Re: Rebuilt A starts and dies immediately in reply to Georgia Boy, 06-04-2005 06:57:19  
Will it keep running if you hold your hand over
the carburetor throat. If it does, your float level may not be set high enough or the main jet is blocked. Make sure your valves aren't set too
tight. Adjust them to .020" until you get the engine running, then you can readjust them later.
Hal



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lee

06-04-2005 07:34:49




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 Re: Rebuilt A starts and dies immediately in reply to Georgia Boy, 06-04-2005 06:57:19  
Is it a mag or coil ignition?
Either way there should be some advance built into the timing spec. Maybe 8 deg or so. You'll need to find the specs. The ignition may be dropping out after it fires. An easy check is with a timing light. Put a makeshift pointer at the front damper and mark the front damper pulley for TDC and maybe 10 BTDC. I suggest this because the timing marks under the tractor at the flywheel are a pain. Hookup a timing light and fire it. You can do this simple test without the pointer if you like, lots of guys don't like the idea of adding a pointer. If the light stops flashing when the engine stops firing you have an ignition problem. If you go to the trouble of adding a pointer you can use it to time the tractor. If you have a mag I think there is some retard built in on start up with the impulse coupling. Maybe you are too far advanced if static timed to fire at TDC. Maybe you just don't have fuel in the carb or the carb jets are plugged and you just think you've cleaned it.

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