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Hugh, Your 1066

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Allan in NE

06-12-2005 09:23:58




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Mornin',

I think you've probably hit the nail on the head in regards to your 160 horse 1066. We all know that IH built all sorts of differing configurations for different parts of the world.

I'll just bet that your tractor had the 436 engine, which is nothing more than a standard 414 block fitted with the long-throw crankshaft. Further, a builder at O/H time would not have given a second thought to that extra crank reach and probably didn't even notice the longer size.

And yes, 140 to 160 horse from this engine would be completely within normal expectations.

One of my old neighbors has a tractor that this modifications was done to at O/H time. From what I hear, this tractor is nothing less than a full-blown, gut binding monster and is more or less a conversation piece in these parts.

Allan

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Hugh MacKay

06-12-2005 17:03:41




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 Re: Hugh, Your 1066 in reply to Allan in NE, 06-12-2005 09:23:58  
Allan: Your quite right, 414 has 4.75 stroke, 436 has 5 stroke and 466 has 5.25 stroke. As I recall they all had 4-11/16 bore. Main differences were crank rod and pistons. Block was much the same. I may be bit off on this, just going from memory.

However I like Randy, do not think it is impossible to get continuous 160 PTO hp from the 414 turbo version. As I said before my 1066 came from factory that way and was never tampered with on pump. Contrary to this we tampered with my 560 with 282 diesel big time. An IH technician had the 560 over 100 hp changing pump settings and moving rpm up to 706 standards . We settled for 90 as that is what I was striving for. The 560 pounded out 90 hp for 17 years and 11,000 hours. That is the only tractor I ever tampered with hp settings. I did it because the money was not there to trade for a 806 or 856. After I got the 1066, 560 was retired to silo blower duty. I still had to leave it at 90 hp so it could keep up with 1066 and NH 890 forage harvester.

At 11,000 hours the 560 put two pistons in the middle of barnyard. I think this could have been prevented. Young lads were changing wagons at silo and left 560 running full throttle no load other than empty blower. I had a friend tell me his 1066 did the same on a blower.

In my day I've owned 16 Farmalls, only one of those did not measure up to it's rated hp. That one was a 504 gasser. I will add that most exceeded the rated hp as they came from factory. I will give special praise to 560 and 656 diesels, in my opinion the two most efficient tractors I've owned. When those two tractors were my main power source the bottom line was the best. Now I also think there were other factors made the late 60s and early 70s good.

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randy hall

06-12-2005 13:11:45




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 Re: Hugh, Your 1066 in reply to Allan in NE, 06-12-2005 09:23:58  
twenty more cubic inches won't make much more power the power comes from the injector pump. i ran my 1466 at 210 horse for years, but something in the rear end would break every year. ih always built a better engine than their rear ends since f-20 days.



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BEANARD

06-12-2005 12:58:56




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 spark plug gap in reply to Allan in NE, 06-12-2005 09:23:58  
hEY, WOULD YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT IS THE RIGHT GAP FOR SPARK PLUGS FOR INTERNATIONAL CUB FARM TRACTOR 1965 MODEL? ALSO THE POINT GAP?



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MN Scott

06-12-2005 10:44:07




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 Re: Hugh, Your 1066 in reply to Allan in NE, 06-12-2005 09:23:58  
Allan,

My 1066 dyno's at 162 horse. It's a 1973 model with 3100 hours. Still has the factory pump with the factory warranty seals intact. Dad bought it new so I know everything is original. The block is stamped DT414. I never run out of power just traction.

Scott.



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migraine

06-12-2005 09:35:07




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 Re: Hugh, Your 1066 in reply to Allan in NE, 06-12-2005 09:23:58  
Mornin' Allan. Are you gonna throw some turbo air at the 966 if you're gonna go plowing? I have everything here you need, the manifold, the turbo and cossover pipe. Just would need the oil lines and a screwdriver to turn up the pump. Man think of the talk in the new neighborhood with all that smoke you could see to the next county. Oh that's right you want seat time . Sorry, bad idea. Just keep it stock Love the pictures of that flatland, Worth more than a thousand words for sure if you have roots ther loke I do. Later Migraine

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Allan in NE

06-12-2005 09:46:02




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 Re: Hugh, Your 1066 in reply to migraine, 06-12-2005 09:35:07  
Hi Migraine,

It is gonna be interesting to see how this thing pulls as compared to my old one, which I had turboed. It really did pull strong, but I was always unhappy with that darned straight pipe. Just could not get used to that extra exhaust noise. :>(

Jack, the fellow who is presently farming the place told me Friday that I was gonna need some serious ponies out there, as the farm has a lot of heavy ground.

Dunno, if it doesn't pull that 4-18 spinner around like I feel it should, I might have to be calling you and begging your help yet once again. :>)

Thanks,

Allan

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