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39 H PTO shaft and Gas Shutoff

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Triker

06-15-2005 06:02:20




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I am a newby to all tractors so please bear with me. I need to get a sickle mower to mow down a large patch of thistles. I have spotted one and the guy has agreed to sell it to me. My question is will it fit on a 39 H PTO shaft? Also how will it fit on my H? Does it attach to the drawbar? Will it use the hydraulics? My hydraulics are not working right now on it. I have heard the 39 is a different size. If it is can I buy an adapter? Second question. The gas shutoff is leaking on mine and the gas is draining out. My neighbor has an old Super A that is a parts tractor. I noticed that the gas shutoff looks pretty good and was curious if that would work on my H. Thanks for your responses.

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T.B.W.

06-15-2005 16:56:38




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 Re: 39 H PTO shaft and Gas Shutoff in reply to Triker, 06-15-2005 06:02:20  
If you get a bush hog type cutter, make sure you get a overrun coupler to use as the adapter. Your PTO shaft is 1 l/8 inch and all the equipment has a 1 3/8 shaft. The overrun coupler keeps the fly wheel effect of the bush hog from pushing the tractor after you push in on the clutch. All the old tractors [53 back] have that problem



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Brian in NY

06-15-2005 13:40:04




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 Re: 39 H PTO shaft and Gas Shutoff in reply to Triker, 06-15-2005 06:02:20  
Triker, You will find, as you become more of a tractor person, that the advice you get on these boards is as close to money in the bank as it gets. Not saying that is true for any advice I give, but the guys who know what they are doing are excellent sources of information. I would also look for a pull behind rotary cutter for the H. You can buy em brand new at Tractor Supply for a reasonable price. If the sickle bar is all you can afford, and is not a 3 point type, I would think it would do the job, as long as you don't plan on using it for heavy brush.
Heck, get the sickle bar anyway cause you won't buy one after you have the rotary cutter, and that way you will have both. The adaptor is simple, easy to find and yes you will need it.
I would go with a new shut off and fuel bowl too. Not worth the trouble of doing the job only to have it leak again. Just my .02.

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Illinois Boy

06-15-2005 09:32:40




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 Re: 39 H PTO shaft and Gas Shutoff in reply to Triker, 06-15-2005 06:02:20  
Triker,
I've got a 7' JD rotary mower behind my Farmall 666 that I use to cut off fields with and have cut saplings up to 1". The bush hog will chew them up easily. I've also got a 5 foot King Bee behind my 350 Farmall that will do the same thing - just a smaller swath. (The 350 has about 40 horses at the PTO and the 666 has about 65HP)
Both will probably handle bigger stuff, but anything bigger than 1" I chain saw off at ground level. Don't want to beat up my equipment too much! The sediment bowl arrangement can be bought at TSC or Rural King - pretty cheap - around $12.00 for the valve and bowl. If you want to stay authentic - as most people do, get one from your Case/IH dealer.

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RustyFarmall

06-15-2005 08:00:44




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 Re: 39 H PTO shaft and Gas Shutoff in reply to Triker, 06-15-2005 06:02:20  
Why take a chance on another leaking fuel shutoff? A brand new sediment bowl assembly from your Case-IH dealer will cost right around $30 or less. Fix it right the first time and don't worry about it again.



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El Toro

06-15-2005 07:57:58




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 Re: 39 H PTO shaft and Gas Shutoff in reply to Triker, 06-15-2005 06:02:20  
I agree with the IL Boy to get a bushhog to cut those thistles. It will not only cut them, it will chew them up too. We used a sickle bar mower years ago to mow off pastures that had thistles since rotary mowers were not available.
Hal



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Illinois Boy

06-15-2005 07:13:24




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 Re: 39 H PTO shaft and Gas Shutoff in reply to Triker, 06-15-2005 06:02:20  
Triker,
You may want to get a 4" rotary mower (bush hog) instead of the sickle bar mower. Sickle bars are, primarily, used for hay. Anything very large with woody stems can and will break the teeth on your cutter bar. The rotary mower will power through saplings and the like much better and a 4" won"t require much HP. You can get the adapters at TSC, Rural King or about any farm supply or implement business.

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Triker

06-15-2005 07:39:01




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 Re: 39 H PTO shaft and Gas Shutoff in reply to Illinois Boy, 06-15-2005 07:13:24  
Will the brush hog work on thistles that are 5 or 6 feet tall?



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Andy Martin

06-15-2005 08:18:54




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 Re: 39 H PTO shaft and Gas Shutoff in reply to Triker, 06-15-2005 07:39:01  
A brush hog is the tool for 6 ft thistles. Then weed spray next spring.

I'd get a 5 ft brush hog for an H. Try to find a used trail behind.



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Andy Martin

06-15-2005 06:19:57




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 Re: 39 H PTO shaft and Gas Shutoff in reply to Triker, 06-15-2005 06:02:20  
How the sickle mower will fit on your tractor depends on the mower. If it is a three point mower, it will be difficult. If it is an old trail behind mower of almost any brand it can be made to fit. Most old mowers have a wide hinge on the drawbar so the mower turns with the tractor. On IH H and M mowers this is a long flat bar turned up on rach end. The bar bolts to the drawbar and the turned up ends have holes to pin to matching holes on the mower. Most old mowers don't have the part that attaches to the tractor, it was in the barn and lost, typically. But it is relatively easy to build a new piece to match the front of the mower to the drawbar.

Most mowers use hydraulics, but it is not necessary. You can get off the tractor, lift the cutter bar, and latch it in place without the hydraulics.

You may find the hydraulics are easy to fix, like putting oil in or tightening the bolt that holds the control arm on.

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scotty

06-15-2005 06:09:23




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 Re: 39 H PTO shaft and Gas Shutoff in reply to Triker, 06-15-2005 06:02:20  
Triker, You will need a 1 1/8" to 1 3/8" pto shaft adapter, a few dollars from any tractor supply house. The gas shutoff should work on your H.

scotty



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