I've baled for years with an M, 479 haybine, and 430 baler. The H will pull a baler jsut fine, but the hyabine is a bit much. I don't understand all the live PTO malarky. Last year I put up a lot of round bales but the year before 15,000 square bales on small fields, and no live PTO except on one hand clutch M I have. I don't like it for baling so I stick with my straight M. The live PTO is a convenience but if you are watching what you are doing you can shift into neutral (with or without the clutch) before the baler stalls. The key is to shift to neutral BEFORE the baler gets overloaded. I rarely have to do that, and for the cost of a live PTO, I would not save 4 hours per year in the field. Also, if you are baling in 3rd, you can shift to neutral, then on into 2nd without using the clutch. You put ptessure on the shift lever, and when the baler plunger has just passed the end of its stroke the load comes off the drive train and the lever will easily go into neutral (not on a steep hill), then it will go right into 2nd without any grinding. It will make you pucker the first time you do it but it works like a charm. Once you are past the heavy hay, you can shift back to 3rd within one stroke of the baler and you are moving again with no lost baler motion.
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