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07-18-2005 20:50:09




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I was told a c-200 would bolt right in to my 350 and give me more hp. where would I find one? whats the history on this motor? thanks for any help on this.




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Steven@ND

07-19-2005 19:45:09




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 Re: C-200 in reply to -¿-, 07-18-2005 20:50:09  
We have a 544 with C200 gas engine. POS.

Complete junk, when you overhaul you have to bore it out, after a couple of these then it's big time $$ to have it sleeved. It makes a lot of noise for not all that much power. The only good thing I can say about that engine is that it is fuel efficient compared to a 656 or SMTA...

I would not buy another 544 gas in my life, except that they are a rare tractor destined to go up in value in the years to come...

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Hugh MacKay

07-19-2005 09:57:08




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 Re: C-200 in reply to -¿-, 07-18-2005 20:50:09  
To start with, you already have the best engine right in your 350, providing it is an original 350 engine. I wouldn't give $0.50 per dozen for all the non sleeved gas engines IH built after 1958.



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ChadS

07-19-2005 07:25:58




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 Re: C-200 in reply to -¿-, 07-18-2005 20:50:09  
A C-200 was used is a IH 544 row crop, and was widly used as a power unit in the Ingersol Rand air compressors. Yes, it will bolt intot he 350 bellhousing, usung a 460 flywheel and clutch, carb and exhaust is on the opposite sides VS the 350, its a 4 cyl version, of a 6 cyl Ih engine, it will bolt into H-560. Chad



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Jimmy King

07-19-2005 10:41:50




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 Re: C-200 in reply to ChadS, 07-19-2005 07:25:58  
I had a 544 gas once, I have not had a 350. I would not trade a 350 for 3 c200's, first they are not a sleved eng. second they fall on their face quickly on a hard pull.



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Nat

07-19-2005 13:58:13




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 Re: C-200 in reply to Jimmy King, 07-19-2005 10:41:50  
My Dad has always said that 544s were gutless wonders. I guess it's true.



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Hugh MacKay

07-19-2005 17:16:10




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 Re: C-200 in reply to Nat, 07-19-2005 13:58:13  
Nat: Nothing wrong with any of the diesels. In the late 1950s IH believed, and rightfully so, diesel was the wave of future farm power. The result was not much in the line of development dollars went into gass engines.

Here in Canada we have always paid about 30% more in common dollars for fuel than people in the US, thus we were very quick to warm up to the diesels. I have only ever seen one Farmall 6 cylinder gasser in my life. That was a Farmall 460. One of the big surprises of my life since coming to YT are the numbers of post 1960 Farmall gassers in the USA. You couple our cost of fuel up with the fact those gassers were eating up 3 times the fuel for the same work.

Just to give you an example, my dad bought the first NH 460 haybine in our area, ran it at first with Farmall 300. It was a load for the 300, and we burnt 3 Imp. gallons of gas per hour on the haybine. With a new 560 diesel that fuel consumption dropped to 1.25 Imp. gallon per hour and 560 just played with the haybine. Just a side note, 300 used to break 1/2 dozen shear bolts per day on haybine. This would happen with engine loosing rpm a bit and then governors hitting it. I used the haybine for about 14 years after that on 560 and 656 diesels and don't ever remember breaking a shear bolt. Steady power is what counts.

The old sleeved gassers from letter, 00 and 50 series were much steadier engines than the newer non sleeved as well. I have seen a few of those 4 cylinder non sleeved gas Farmalls. Neither the C-153 nor the C-200 will measure up to the old sleeved C-169 or C-175. For that matter I thought the 460 gas was a sick excuse along side my 300. 460 made a huge roar, but when it came right down to field lugging the old 300 was right there with it.

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Nat

07-19-2005 04:55:58




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 Re: C-200 in reply to -¿-, 07-18-2005 20:50:09  
Why don't you just buy a bigger tractor? The 350 with its stock engine is at the limit of what the transmission, TA, and rear end can take. Case in point, the 460, which is a 350 with a larger 6-cylinder engine in it. The higher horsepower caused rear end problems that ruined IH's reputation and set them back so badly that they never recovered.

Frankly, I don't think there is such an engine, but if there is, it's RARE, and you'll never find a good one at a reasonable price.

Where can you buy one? As a general rule, ANYWHERE. You have to look around. There's no one reliable source for a good used engine. In other words, you can't go to the "engine store" and put one in your shopping cart. Watch the papers, watch Ebay, post wanted ads on websites, beat the bushes, check with tractor salvage yards, keep your eyes open...

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