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Unlisted Dealer using SHILL bidders on this site

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BIG JOHN

08-18-2005 18:40:30




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Buyers BEWARE. There is a guy that is a dealer who is listing on the "Photo Ads" but not showing that he is a dealer. He is also listing the same item on E-bay auctions and using a SHILL BIDDER.

On this site he is only using the name "ROSS" with an address of Iowa City, Iowa. PH# 319-646-2720. On E-bay he calls himself "tractoriowa".

If you deal with him don't say you weren't warned.

This is first hand knowedge not just hearsay.

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stacy g

08-26-2005 14:20:05




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 Re: Unlisted Dealer using SHILL bidders on this s in reply to BIG JOHN, 08-18-2005 18:40:30  
what problems did you have? just wondering.



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Mydeere

08-19-2005 06:18:25




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 Re: Unlisted Dealer using SHILL bidders on this s in reply to BIG JOHN, 08-18-2005 18:40:30  
I know of the Ross your speaking of and have bought 3 tractors and some implements from him in the past. I have found him to be honest and forthright in his interpretation of his items for sale. He has gone out of his way for me as our transactions were long distance and was a pleasure to do business with.



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Sloroll

08-19-2005 06:09:48




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 Re: Unlisted Dealer using SHILL bidders on this s in reply to BIG JOHN, 08-18-2005 18:40:30  
Yes, there is a fellow that advertises his tractors here and on E-bay (he generally has the phrase "Iowa city area" used as a location. He uaually states that the bidding is at such and such in his YT adds. I have dealt with him and have had no issues. I have not noticed shill bidders on his auctions.



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gene b

08-19-2005 03:50:36




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 Re: Unlisted Dealer using SHILL bidders on this s in reply to BIG JOHN, 08-18-2005 18:40:30  
I am a good friend of him and live nearby. He does not do anything shady. I f you read his adds when he sells something the way he describes the item telling verry clear the condition. You need to be sure of the facts before trying to run someones character down.



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Jay (ND)

08-19-2005 02:43:04




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 Re: Unlisted Dealer using SHILL bidders on this s in reply to BIG JOHN, 08-18-2005 18:40:30  
I don't buy it. On Ebay he has 3109 positive and only 3 negative. On here, "Ross" has a D-4 for sale, but it's not on ebay - nothing else in Iowa matches what 'tractoriowa' has on Ebay either. I looked through 'tractoriowa's auctions for the last 2 weeks, and not once was there a same bidder from one auction to another, blowing your shill bidder idea out of the water.

Care to give any details to prove me wrong?

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Older and Wiser

08-18-2005 22:48:04




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 Re: Unlisted Dealer using SHILL bidders on this s in reply to BIG JOHN, 08-18-2005 18:40:30  
Yep, had a run in with that one once on ebay. Would never do business with him again. Too shady.



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Ross

08-18-2005 20:22:32




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 Re: Unlisted Dealer using SHILL bidders on this s in reply to BIG JOHN, 08-18-2005 18:40:30  
I'm not sure who're you're talking about but I'm the only one you post under just "Ross" and I'm not in Iowa. So who ever you're talking about I wish you'd be clearer because I might want to sell something on Yesterdays tractors and I don't want people thinking I'm the guy who short changed you.
Ross in IL



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BIG JOHN

08-19-2005 12:57:29




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 Re: Unlisted Dealer using SHILL bidders on this s in reply to Ross, 08-18-2005 20:22:32  
I gave you all the info that I have on him even his telephone number.



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old

08-18-2005 19:17:08




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 Re: Unlisted Dealer using SHILL bidders on this s in reply to BIG JOHN, 08-18-2005 18:40:30  
You should post that in the buy/sellers feed back area



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moseed

08-19-2005 05:24:52




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 Re: Unlisted Dealer using SHILL bidders on this s in reply to old, 08-18-2005 19:17:08  
This is a wonderfull opportunity for all of us who frequent this type of forum/s to have a reality check. Don't take what you read here to the bank! Step back and double-triple check information before acting on it. It's very difficult to separate someone on a smear campaigne from someone who is trying to be helpful. I am very suspicious of sour apple statements.



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