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Scott Jr

08-22-2005 18:09:39




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Thanks for all the help earlier on about the gas tank i took it off and cleaned it (or so i thought) put it back on and i now have another peice of rust stuck in the outlet of the tank how do i really clean a tank or where can i buy a new one ? thanks ScottJr




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James Herrman

08-24-2005 23:55:06




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 Re: cleaning gas tanks ? in reply to Scott Jr, 08-22-2005 18:09:39  
Just did one last Sunday and also more before then. I have started to use a length of log chain along with 2 gal of muratic acid. I made brackets and hold downs and fastened it all to my cement mixer. Then used the high pressure washer. Tumbled for about 1 hour, pressure washed and then neutralized the acid with baking soda. Wear protective gear of course. Have had great luck and still have more waiting to do. JIM in ILL.

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Rudi

08-23-2005 07:18:44




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 Re: cleaning gas tanks ? in reply to Scott Jr, 08-22-2005 18:09:39  
Scott Jr.:

Well, now you are where a lot of guys end up. And probably will end up again.

Simple solution. I know it goes against the grain, but sometimes it is BETTER to let a pro do the job.

Take you tank to a good Radiator Gas Tank Repair Shop in your area. They will purge, clean, check for any leaks and repair then will seal with Red Kote. Should cost between $50.00 and $75.00US Maximum. Then, all you have to do (do this whilst your tank is being sealed) is make sure that the rest of your fuel delivery system is clean and properly set up.

Or, if you are real handy, then you can clean the tank yourself - some use a muriatic base cleaner which I really am not comfortable with, some use the electrolysis tank (see the Cub Manual Server for this procedure), but that may still leave some residue. Some also use just water a bunch of bb's, marbles, small lengths of chain and a lot of violent shaking on your part. Then of course rinse and rinse and rinse until it is spotless.

Then you can seal the tank with a product called POR-15 (google search for the name) or you may even be able to get Red Kote yourself. Be prepared to use proper respiratory equipment.

Be aware also, that doing it yourself will probably cost you more in associated costs such as the respiratory gear, compressor, gun etc., and therefore the option of taking it to your rad/gas tank repair shop becomes much more attractive. Especially if you are only going to do the one tank...

Decisions, Decisions, Decisions.... :-))

the Cub Manual Server - www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/index.html

Hope this helps

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Ludwig

08-23-2005 14:17:25




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 Re: cleaning gas tanks ? in reply to Rudi, 08-23-2005 07:18:44  
POR15 sells kits which include the Marine Clean and Metal Ready components which make the magic work. I used POR15 on a snowmobile gas tank 3 years ago and its been just great since then.



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migraine

08-22-2005 21:53:36




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 Re: cleaning gas tanks ? in reply to Scott Jr, 08-22-2005 18:09:39  
The last two restorations I have done were both a mess in the tanks, and causing poor flow. I washed a half gallon bucket of small pea gravel twice and dried it off with an old towel put it in the tank and turned it over and over and over. Back and forth till my arms were tired and left it for the night,. Next day same thing till I was tired and took it out the fill cap and the few small pieces out the bottom. Came out like it was new and not a problem since. Cheap fix. Worth a try?

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GordoSD

08-22-2005 21:08:40




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 Re: cleaning gas tanks ? in reply to Scott Jr, 08-22-2005 18:09:39  
Vinegar is the most mild of the acedic acid familys. Anything that is safe to pickle fish in can't be too caustic.You could also use lemon juice. You are not cleaning your coffee pot here. Body shop supply houses have product for treating rusted or sandblasted metal.It's called "metal prep" duh, and it is much stronger and more effective. It contains phosphoric acid, which is exactly what is needed to clean up rust from metal. I don't prime any old metal without using it. Follow up with etching primer, then non sanding uerethane primer if outside iron/steel. For inside, like tank , a good fresh water flush. But then I am new school, restorer, going broke using 100,000 dollar auto restoration techniques on 8000 dollar tractors. :(

Gordo

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Dave NE IA

08-22-2005 20:03:11




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 Re: cleaning gas tanks ? in reply to Scott Jr, 08-22-2005 18:09:39  
Jr I'm old and Gray but will always do it this way from now on. I just tried it this summer after 35 years of power washers, log chains, and duck taping the tank to a tractor wheel or cement mixer with a bunch of nuts and washers in the tank. I will always try 6 gallons of white vinager in the tank and a few days of soaking. It actualy looks like it was sand blasted on the inside of the tank--pitted but perfectly clean new metal shine. Yes before you ask--the 2 tanks I cleanned were plugging the hole with the sediment bulb removed and a power washer with a dirt buster nozzle on it had failed. I paid $2.50 per gallon, and will reuse many times -- I think. ( I have a waiting list for this process) I did flush them afterward of course. Dave NE IA

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Ludwig

08-23-2005 14:15:19




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 Re: cleaning gas tanks ? in reply to Dave NE IA, 08-22-2005 20:03:11  
I did this on a snowmobile tank but it took a good deal longer than a couple days. I left it for like a month! But the vinegar sure does a good job.



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Marv

08-22-2005 19:23:29




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 Re: cleaning gas tanks ? in reply to Scott Jr, 08-22-2005 18:09:39  
Scott, I had the same problem. I solved it by finding a copper pipe that just fits over the sediment bulb that fits inside the gas tank. Squeeze off the top of the copper pipe and drill a few holes in the pipe which will allow the gas to get in the sediment bulb. Works great. LOL



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