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Couple of Cub questions......

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John in KY

08-27-2005 00:18:35




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Just got my grandfather's Cub to go with my '46 A. It's serial number is 233501 which seems to make it an early '69 model. As I recall the end of the Farmall name was around that time frame and the Cub is badged an International. The thing about this Cub is that my grandfather was in possession of it since new and it has always had the Farmall/International red paint on it. However from nicks and scratches over the years I have found that most of the sheet metal is painted International yellow underneath the International red. This includes the fenders, the metal around the grill, the fan shroud, the headlights, and even inside the tool box. So what would be the story on when the rollover from red to yellow occured on the Cubs and why would International have delivered it in red if many of the parts were coming down the line with yellow paint? Were both colors being produced at the same time? I know it's always been red because I have a photo of my grandfather with his new Cub and the mule it replaced. (that's what the Cub was intended for after all) One other question..... .what is the easiest way to install a front hitch on a Cub? I may end up using it to move a couple of antique airplanes in and out of their hangar and a front hitch would be needed. Thanks.

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Jim Becker

08-27-2005 15:49:21




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 Re: Couple of Cub questions...... in reply to John in KY, 08-27-2005 00:18:35  
The Farmall name was dropped in '64. Although yellow became the "standard" color, red was available as a regular production option most (if not all) of the time. Many of the dealers, especially ones in the solid south, believed red tractors sold better than yellow ones. (An argument with some validity.) They would typically either order them in red or repaint them when they came in.

Is the yellow a true finish paint yellow (not primer)?

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John in KY

08-27-2005 20:15:24




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 Re: Couple of Cub questions...... in reply to Jim Becker, 08-27-2005 15:49:21  
The yellow seems too bright for primer and it seem to be pretty much a dead ringer for international yellow. Examining the nicks and scratches on the engine block, transmission, and axle casting does not seem to show any yellow beneath the red in those areas..... .it seems to be primarily on the sheet metal pieces. I think you may be right..... in the mountains of south east KY I think a red tractor would sell better. It's not as though it's that important an issue but in my fooling around with antique airplanes and the occasional military vehicle I tend to like to know as much detail about an individual machine's history as I can come up with. It's just an interesting detail that I don't understand so I start asking questions. To me that's a lot of the fun. If only they could talk. Of course my grandfather's mule was white and he couldn't talk either!

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Phlogiston

08-27-2005 07:33:59




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 Re: Couple of Cub questions...... in reply to John in KY, 08-27-2005 00:18:35  
Your Grandfather was still farming with mules in 1969? The dealer could have painted the tractor red before delivery.

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John in KY

08-27-2005 20:57:54




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 Re: Couple of Cub questions...... in reply to Phlogiston, 08-27-2005 07:33:59  
Yeah, he was still using a mule in '69 and probably for a while after that even though he had the Cub. I can't remember exactly when he sold the mule because I was still quite young then. In the mountains of east KY I believe mules stayed in use quite a bit longer than they did on flatter ground. Kind of hard to get a tractor to some of those hillside garden patches. He had a large garden and he tended the garden of a somewhat isolated school that raised a lot of their own food for the students. Some of it was bottom land but I remember a couple of places up on the bench of a mountain. I always wanted to visit when he was getting the garden ready because I would get to ride on the drag behind the mule. I can still hear him calling gee and haw.

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lee

08-27-2005 06:14:56




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 Re: Couple of Cub questions...... in reply to John in KY, 08-27-2005 00:18:35  
I had one I thought was early 60's Yellow and White. White hood sheet tank fenders.



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