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Farmall 130 trans plugs

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Jeff Farm

09-14-2005 09:33:30




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I am new with these old tractors. Taking over the Farmall 130 from my father in law who is ill. The tractor has been sitting for 3 years but it started right up. I don't know the last time maintaince was done on this machine so I am changing the fluids. Can someone please tell me where the drain plug(s) are for the gear box/trans/PTO. I see the fill pipe plug holes on the top of the gear box and PTO (are these compartments connected?). I also assume the pipe plug hole on the right side of the gear box is the fill line. Other then that I dont know what to do, and I am still undecided about the oil to use (HyTran or 90w). The tractor is only used in the summer for mowing fields.

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Dave BN

09-14-2005 16:04:56




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 Re: Farmall 130 trans plugs in reply to Jeff Farm, 09-14-2005 09:33:30  
Jeff,MitchP- the level check for my BN is a regular pipe plug (1/2" or so) that I use a Cresent wrench on. It's not the recessed type. Jeff, I think you'll need 2 gallons of 90W to change your fluids. 1 1/2 quarts in each final drive and 5 quarts for the transmission including the PTO and belt pulley. When you drain the transmission you need to remove the tiny pipe plug at the bottom of the belt pulley housing to drain that. You should refill the belt pulley with 1/2 quart of fluid to lubricate it until the fluid from the transmission can get back there. The fill is on top of the belt pulley housing if I remember right. o change the fluid in the final drives you need to take off the sheet metal pans at the bottom of the final drives. I wipe these out good and use a new gasket when reinstalling them and don't over tighten those bolts! Then refill using the recessed pipe plugs in the casting just above the pans. One last thing, when changing gearbox fluids or engine oil I always dump a quart of fluid straight thru to flush it out. For the transmission and belt pulley I'd use 10W30 or something similar. Dave.

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Jim Becker

09-15-2005 06:55:10




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 Re: Farmall 130 trans plugs in reply to Dave BN, 09-14-2005 16:04:56  
The A/B models had pipe plugs in nearly all the fill/drain/check locations. Later years IH tended to use more recessed plugs in the same locations.

Yes, IH said to dump some oil in the plug on top of the pulley attachment when the attachment was installed on early tractors, but adding there after a fluid change is no more necessary than it is to take the top cover off and squirt oil on all the transmission bearings after a change. The main reason for the plug is so you can see the bevel gears when you are setting the mesh.

You can leave the level in the final drive housings just below the pan gasket level to reduce weaping at the gasket. It doesn't need to be clear to the fill/level plug.

I would not use any engine oil in the transmission. The EP property of gear oil is important, particularly for the differential.

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Hugh MacKay

09-14-2005 19:59:26




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 Re: Farmall 130 trans plugs in reply to Dave BN, 09-14-2005 16:04:56  
Dave: You are giving him unnecessary information. Yes you drain the the pto - belt pulley housing. If tractor does not have belt pulley option, there is no place to add the oil you suggest.

That oil added to pto - pulley is not needed, as nothing is turning up there unless pto - pulley are engaged. The oil slinger if working properly will fill the pto - pulley very quickly.



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Hugh MacKay

09-14-2005 10:22:26




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 Re: Farmall 130 trans plugs in reply to Jeff Farm, 09-14-2005 09:33:30  
Jeff: You are right fill plug on top. Wrong on fill to level plug, It is on left side of transmission case, directly below front end of left fender. Usually right behind pull rod for left brake. the large plug you see just to right of pto is actually drain plug. The pto and belt pulley are lubricated from the transmission. There is a device called a slinger puts oil up there and excess runs back through an overflow.Use gear oil 90W and tractors without pto and belt pulley take 4 qts., with pto and belt pulley 5 qts. I keep about a qt. over in mine, been doing that for years.

Bear in mind the final drives have separate compartments from transmission. They are filled through plug and to the plug on inside and near front of final drive. again gear oil 90W and 3 pts. each. Steering box gear oil 90W, 1 qt.

The htdraulic system holds 8-1/4 pts when new, refills will be 6-3/4 pts. Use hy tran only. Always fill hydraulic system with roch shaft arms in rear position. The fill is the level. The fill- level plug, drain plug and screen or filter are all on left side of touch control unit. The screen is that rounded square plate held in by 4 small bolts.

By the way the rad holds 15 qts. and fuel tank 11 gal. These capacities are all US measure. Crankcase holds 5 qts. and don't forget breather cup at 7/8 pt. of motor oil.

Your father in law likely had a manual, get your hands on it. very valuable

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MITCHP

09-14-2005 12:52:30




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 Re: Farmall 130 trans plugs in reply to Hugh MacKay, 09-14-2005 10:22:26  
HUGH, IS THIS THE SAME FOR MY 140? I'VE LOOKED FOR THE PLUG TO CHECK THE TRANNY OIL AND CANNOT FIND IT. WHEN YOU SAY LEFT SIDE, IS THAT STANDING BEHIND THE TRACTOR? IS THE TRANNY AND REAR END OIL ALL THE SAME OR SEPARATE?



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Hugh MacKay

09-14-2005 13:29:45




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 Re: Farmall 130 trans plugs in reply to MITCHP, 09-14-2005 12:52:30  
Mitch: How are you doing? Got that 140 running tip top? Yes the transmission and rear end are one. Any direction I give left and right are always standing behind tractor. That fill to level plug is quite small, and pull rod going to left brake can hide it.



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mitchp

09-14-2005 13:32:53




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 Re: Farmall 130 trans plugs in reply to Hugh MacKay, 09-14-2005 13:29:45  
doing good, its running pretty good. its useable season is about over, so it'll have a long winter to rest some. i'll look for that plug again, must be pretty small :o)



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Hugh MacKay

09-14-2005 13:57:43




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 Re: Farmall 130 trans plugs in reply to mitchp, 09-14-2005 13:32:53  
Mitch: The plug is probably 1/2 inch. Most of the original fill to level plugs are recessed to take a 3/8 drive handle.



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Jeff Farm

09-14-2005 11:02:09




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 Re: Farmall 130 trans plugs in reply to Hugh MacKay, 09-14-2005 10:22:26  
Hugh, Thanks for the info. I know he has a manual, have yet to find it.



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Hugh MacKay

09-14-2005 12:44:05




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 Re: Farmall 130 trans plugs in reply to Jeff Farm, 09-14-2005 11:02:09  
Jeff: I know what you mean, had to do some looking to find my own manual. I have 3 stacks of tractor books each about 2' high. It was there, just hated to disturb the pile. My good wife tells me I need a book case. When I did use the book case, someone else was also using it, not to mention any names. Back then I could never find the book I wanted. Someone will be doing same with my manual in future.

Those figures I quoted you came right from original IH operators manual.

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Jeff Farm

09-14-2005 13:30:36




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 Re: Farmall 130 trans plugs in reply to Hugh MacKay, 09-14-2005 12:44:05  
Hugh, I assume where you wrote pts it should be qts? Quarts, not pints?



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Hugh MacKay

09-14-2005 13:53:09




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 Re: Farmall 130 trans plugs in reply to Jeff Farm, 09-14-2005 13:30:36  
Jeff: By gosh you sent me checking the book. Double checked where I said pts. it is pints and where I said qts. it is quarts. Now, don't check me up on some spelling errors I see in that post. I thought maybe you were in a hurry. Can confirm the quarts and pints are right. Now back to Mitch, you guys are making and old guy work today.



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El Toro

09-14-2005 10:04:37




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 Re: Farmall 130 trans plugs in reply to Jeff Farm, 09-14-2005 09:33:30  
I think you should go with the 90wt gear oil. Hytran is Case/IH's hydraulic oil and can be used in your hydraulic system not in your gear boxes. Hal



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