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J Muehring

09-15-2005 08:18:18

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Ever since Katrina hit and gas went out the roof Ive been thinking about the future effects on our tractors. I put my Farmall 460 gas out for sale on busy hyway for two weeks and have had only 3 calls. One gentalman informed me that the more common gas tractors wont be worth anything now. I know theirs cheaper tractors than mine for sale but I had to buy a lot of parts and a lot a hours worked. I guess I will park it in shed for the winter. Is anybody else seeing this happen ?

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Aberdale Farm

09-16-2005 05:44:08

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Re: gas prices and our hobby in reply to J Muehring, 09-15-2005 08:18:18

A few folks may not buy your tractor because of the cost of fuel. Fuel costs may put a temporary damper on the purchase of any big ticket item, including tractors. Once everyone gets used to the cost of $3.00 gas, then it will be forgotten. Remember when gasoline first broke $1.00? Everyone thought the world was going to end. Looks pretty cheap by today's standards, doesn't it? Someday we will say, "Remember when gas was only $3.00 a gallon? Those were the days . . ."

There is still plenty of tractor collecting going on in Europe, Australia, and Canada. And their fuel prices are significantly higher than ours. If you have been bitten by the "Old Iron Bug", you will find a way to afford it.

Dale

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Don L C

09-15-2005 21:07:41

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Re: gas prices and our hobby in reply to J Muehring, 09-15-2005 08:18:18

Don't know how you use your hobby tractors, but the price of gas has little to do with it....I have 6 tractors ---Farmall H and a Farmall M, that I only run around in my yard ,maybe a parade....A John Deere LA and a Allis-Chalmers G, both small and can also hall them to shows close by.....The IH Cub Cadet 682 (red) and a Power King 1620 not to costly to show,parade or mow grass.....

Don't sell your 460 --- polish her up and play with her in the yard....just listen to her run....if you have more tractors, put on your oun show in your front yard....

I mix up 10 gallon of gas with restor...ad a gallon or to when needed and have a great time talking with whoever stops.....DO NOT SELL HER!

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riverbend

09-15-2005 20:09:00

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Re: gas prices and our hobby in reply to J Muehring, 09-15-2005 08:18:18

You're joking, right ? I make my living with an '40 H and a '53 SC (and a few other things). The tractors burn up about 400 gallons of gas, between them. If gas is $2 or $3, it is $400 difference for the whole year. That's peanuts compared to labor, seed costs, propane, boxes, etc.

If restoring old tractors is your hobby, $400 is not going to put sleeves and pistons in a motor, much less paint a tractor. Shoot, I've probably got $4500 into a $1500 H. If I put another $1000 into paint, I'd have a $2000 H.

The price of gas will not affect the value of your tractor, and you will never make money on a restoration. Just enjoy them for whatever they mean to you.

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Yugrotcart

09-15-2005 16:51:46

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Re: gas prices and our hobby in reply to J Muehring, 09-15-2005 08:18:18

Drove my W6 for a nice drive the other day to a friends about 15 miles away. Was a great day for a tour, and had lots of fun.( Until the tranny locked up, but that's another story.....)
Anyways, for what it cost in gas, it was great entertainment for the day. Some people golf, we drive old tractors..... ..... ...

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Dave H (MI)

09-15-2005 16:30:27

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Re: gas prices and our hobby in reply to J Muehring, 09-15-2005 08:18:18

I think you worry to much about the wrong things.
If anything kills the value of old tractors it won't be gas prices. More likely a lack of interest on the part of an increasingly suburbanized country. Most people don't know where the (blip) there food comes from let alone care about the machines that were used to grow it.

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mace

09-15-2005 15:18:15

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Re: gas prices and our hobby in reply to J Muehring, 09-15-2005 08:18:18

Has anyone thought of running peanut oil in a diesel engine. Just my two cents. That how the germans started with cars in the "20"s. Has anyone converted a tractor to run on veg. oil.

MACE

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big fred

09-15-2005 14:06:20

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Re: gas prices and our hobby in reply to J Muehring, 09-15-2005 08:18:18

I think I heard somewhere that the end of the world is comin'

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havvey

09-15-2005 11:41:38

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Re: gas prices and our hobby in reply to J Muehring, 09-15-2005 08:18:18

I agree thing are slowing not just gas but economy as a whole, may be more so geographical.
The extras will go first then tourisum alot of things will set stalemate for a while.

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IH2444

09-15-2005 11:35:25

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Re: gas prices and our hobby in reply to J Muehring, 09-15-2005 08:18:18

I suppose those old steam tractors are not worth much either considering the peice of coal. Could this just be a bargaining point to get the price down ?

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Illinois Boy

09-15-2005 12:44:29

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Re: gas prices and our hobby in reply to IH2444, 09-15-2005 11:35:25

Steam = Hot Air? Hey - I could connect a pipe to my Congressman's mouth and finish up the hay season!!

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Dick Davis

09-16-2005 03:45:57

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Re: gas prices and our hobby in reply to Illinois Boy, 09-15-2005 12:44:29

Illinois Boy, if you are plumbing your elected offical for an energy source and only taking the hot air you are clearly losing another valuable fuel = methane also available in large quantities and pressure. My nickel Dick DAvis

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NDS

09-15-2005 11:33:19

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Re: gas prices and our hobby in reply to J Muehring, 09-15-2005 08:18:18

There may be hope saw gas in one town in North Alabama for $2.55 to $2.57 gallon yesterday the same stations were near $3.00 last time I was through there a few days after hurricane.

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dave from MN

09-15-2005 11:33:03

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Re: gas prices and our hobby in reply to J Muehring, 09-15-2005 08:18:18

I filled truck and tanks yesterday for $2.65/gallon Deisel was $2.89. Prices should drop a little more then I think they will remain steady for a time then creep up fast as winter/harvest apprach. I am gonna watch close and when I think it is as low as it will go I am gonna lock in a thousand gallons at the fuel bank.

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scotty

09-15-2005 10:12:57

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Re: gas prices and our hobby in reply to J Muehring, 09-15-2005 08:18:18

J, I would have to agree with CNKS, this is a hobby and if it makes you happy just do it! Things that changed for me are carting tractors to shows, I would like to bring them along but the cost of fuel is a stopper! Although I might just attend as a spectator and save a few sheckles!

scotty

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Peabody

09-15-2005 08:56:36

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Re: gas prices and our hobby in reply to J Muehring, 09-15-2005 08:18:18

I filled up my Envoy this morning, $2.79/gallon. While I was inside paying I saw the maintenance guy monkeying with the pumps. When I came out, I noticed the price had dropped to $2.67! Had I waited five minutes, I would have saved almost 2 bucks.

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CNKS

09-15-2005 08:31:15

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Re: gas prices and our hobby in reply to J Muehring, 09-15-2005 08:18:18

To collectors like myself it doesn't make a bit of difference, to someone wanting to do a significant amount of work with one, it might. I really don't think there will be any significant reduction in the price, could be wrong. The amount of money and time you put into it will not increase the selling price enough for anyone to get their money back, either now or 5 years ago. This is a hobby, not a money making venture.

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MagMan

09-15-2005 08:27:26

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Re: gas prices and our hobby in reply to J Muehring, 09-15-2005 08:18:18

Well I dont know about that becuase diesle is running about $3.09 here and gas anywhere from $3.15 to 3.29 still we have been seing a .02 to.05 cent decrease every few days. But I really dont see the $2.75 mark here again this year its too bad last year at this point it was a buck and a half and a month ago it was $2.50. Sad Sad situation. I used my old garden tractor for spraying this week to save on gas it took a lot longer to get er done but I only used 2 gallons of gas and It was kind of fun actually.I could just imagine how much gas the H would have wanted to do the job. I am also trying to do what I can with the cub also The poor SM is just sitting there probly saying hey when are you going to fire me up and let me pull those offset discs around. Little does the old girl know she is probly retired for the year. JON

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Bobg

09-15-2005 10:42:03

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Re: gas prices and our hobby in reply to MagMan, 09-15-2005 08:27:26

Fuel prices here (southeastern WA) gas just went down to $2.99, diesel's at $3.29. Our family adopted a soldlier stationed in Iraq, my wife told him what the price of diesel was and he couldn't believe it. Over there he said diesel is more plentiful than water.

Bobg

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PAULIH300

09-16-2005 03:01:43

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Re: gas prices and our hobby in reply to Bobg, 09-15-2005 10:42:03

When diesel fuel is more expensive than gas,it should reflect poorly on the diesel tractors too.What the big interest in diesel models is,I havent "caught that bug"....they may take a little less fuel,but they cost more,are dirty/smelly/polluting engines,very hard to start in extreme cold (not to mention diesel fuel starts jelling below 32 degrees),trap water,weigh a bunch more,and the filters are much more expensive (the old gas jobs dont even have fuel filters!),that need changing all the time (fuel filter/water separator).Not to mention the additional repair items like injectors and rotary injector pump.No....for me,an occasional tractor user,I'll stick with gas....turn that key and fire er off and go.....

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