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absrio

10-07-2005 05:45:25

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I was wondering what your guys opinoin was on this trailer. It will be used to haul an H & M a couple times a year maybe. It would be a 20' length with 10k lb axels and steel floor. Only issue i could see with it is the type of ramps it comes with.

Also anybody hauled with a 04 GMC 1500? Just wondering how mine would pull the M. Book says I can tow 8k lbs with the 5.3 and 3.73 gears. Truck came with the Light Duty Power Package.

20' Car hauler with 10k lb axels

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T_Bone

10-07-2005 20:36:27

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Re: Trailer Truck Opinoin in reply to absrio, 10-07-2005 05:45:25

Hi absrio,

I tell you what I learned from 40yrs of using trailers. I always was trading up to the next one to handle my current needs. Had I just bought the correct trailer the first time, I would have still owned it. As it is I have 3 trailers now, 2 of which can't handle my current needs and my new baby, a 27ft+5ft, 10k Dexter dual tandums, 12" 19# I-beam, 3" channel on 16" centers, Bulldog GN & landing gear, new in June 05 $6400 out the door.

If you would buy a decent 20ft on the deck, 16" tires, and a Bulldog GN, you would then have a trailer that would last you a very long time and pull extremely well and you would spend Less money in the long run.

I see a couple problems with the trailer your wanting to buy.

1) NO 16" tires!!!!! This is a huge one as good 15" trailer tries are very dificult to come by. Cooper & Goodyear are the only ones building good 15" trailer tires. However, there's several companys making great 16" tires.

2) A Fuller coupler. A cheap made spring assist ball lock. The top of the line is Bulldog made by the HammerBlow company. A Bulldog coupler is way over built for it's weight rating and will be difficult to wear out.

3) Probably a Fuller tongue jack. Again not top quality. Bulldog again builds a great quality tongue jack.

I personally would do some research of the Texas trailer builders in the Dallas area and in the Ok City,OK area. Them boys build some great trailers, cheaper than I can buy materials and shipping "was" only running $400 a trailer.

T_Bone

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Don L C

10-07-2005 20:25:12

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Re: Trailer Truck Opinoin in reply to absrio, 10-07-2005 05:45:25

Better do some measuring befor you buy any trailer.....My '51 Farmall M is 88" out side with the wheels all the way in....I guess you could turn the wheels around , but I don't like the way they look....You will need a "bed over wheels" to hall the M....

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Sonny Reeseh

10-07-2005 17:51:45

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Re: Trailer Truck Opinoin in reply to absrio, 10-07-2005 05:45:25

What is the tensil strength of the steel that the trailer was built from? I saw one sad sight when my friend attempted to load a new trailer and it folded right under the first big bump he hit on the road. (trailer was common mild steel!!)

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Brown Dirt Cowboy

10-07-2005 16:52:52

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Re: Trailer Truck Opinoin in reply to absrio, 10-07-2005 05:45:25

Am I not reading something into this. It comes standard with tandem 3500# axles then you can get the 10,000# option, wouldn't that actually be two 5000# axles because I thought that the 10,000# axles is a dual wheel axle. Still is a very good looking trailer. And didn't we see recently on here where a guy took 2X8 boards and cut them in lenghts and stair stepped them inside the fenders to make ramps that got the tractor tires over the fenders when he backed the tractor onto the trailer? If I was buying that trailer in a bumper hitch I believe I would go with the 10,000# option. Just my 2cents. Tom P.S. My trailer of choose would be a gooseneck of at least 14,000GVW

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DigDugNC

10-07-2005 13:35:57

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Re: Trailer Truck Opinoin in reply to absrio, 10-07-2005 05:45:25

The M weighs 5600lbs stock. My Farmall M (which I recently bought and towed home)is 88" wide from the outside of the wheels at a minimum. The trailer you are looking at is 82" wide between the fender wells therefor the M will not fit between the axles, and you will not be able to pull the tractor far enough forward to get a well balanced load (10% tongue weight). RustyFarmall is right, he tried to tell me the same thing and I still tried to load it not once but twice on two different trailors that were not wide enough. I made two wasted trips 40 miles one way before I made my third trip this time I had another old iron enthusiasist haul it for me on a 8 1/2'X 40' gooseneck deck over, that had the center ramp. You NEED a deck over trailor or at least 8ft wide between the fenders. Remember to add the weight of the tractor & the weight of the trailor plus anything your hauling in your truck including you to get your GCWR, If your truck can pull 8,000lbs trailor weight then that leaves 2400lbs of weight for the trailor, you, family/friends, and gear.

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26Red

10-07-2005 09:33:54

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Re: Trailer Truck Opinoin in reply to absrio, 10-07-2005 05:45:25

I have a similar trailer with the same ramps. I have hauled my H with a loader and SMTA with loaded tires- which bend the ramps. I would suggest fold up ramps that support the rear end of the trailer while loading. I have to put jack stands under the rear of my trailer to make loading safer. My truck pulls the load fine-'97 1500 dodge with the 360 V-8. Getting the load balanced is the key to a nice tow. You should be okay with your GMC. You'll need a electronic brake controller added to handle the trailer brakes.

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jal-SD

10-07-2005 07:24:44

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Re: Trailer Truck Opinoin in reply to absrio, 10-07-2005 05:45:25

Your proposed trailer is similar to mine. I have one that is 18' long with a wood tilt deck. I can get a DC Case between the fenders on mine @82" width, think an M will make it, unless you have 15" wide tires on it. I pull mine with an '03 Toyota Tundra (4.7L V-8 w/3:73s) which should be comparable to your GMC. I have never been lacking for go or whoa power. I have hauled a couple of Scouts through the Black Hills and back to the eastern part of SD with it. One weekend I pulled an H Farmall w/loader (about as areodynamic as a brick) from Hermosa to Mitchell in really windy conditions. It pulled @ 70MPH down I-90 with no problem. Used to pull it w/150 Ford w/5L, before I bought the Toyota. The Toyota does a much better job. I get as good gas milage w/Toyota pulling loaded as I did w/Ford pulling empty. (My $0.02 worth. jal-SD)

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CNKS

10-07-2005 06:34:29

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Re: Trailer Truck Opinoin in reply to absrio, 10-07-2005 05:45:25

The trailer is fine, as Rusty says, the wheels have to be turned in on the M. Ignore the axle rating and look for a sticker on the trailer that gives you the GVW. Just because it has 10000 lb axles does not mean the whole trailer is rated for 10000 lbs. But, I have a 2005 GMC same as yours except it is 4WD -- 8700 towing capacity with a 4.10 rear end. I have not towed with it yet, I don't think I would tow an M. The 8700 lbs means on level ground with a tailwind and only the driver. You have to subtract the weight of all cargo, your wife, dog, luggage, jacks, blocks and everything else. With an M, although you are probably technically within the GVW of your pickup (remember the GVW of the TRAILER includes the weight of the tractor AND the trailer), your pickup will have all it wants. With that much weight you need a weight equalizing hitch or your pickup will squat too much.

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RustyFarmall

10-07-2005 06:07:23

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Re: Trailer Truck Opinoin in reply to absrio, 10-07-2005 05:45:25

Your M will not fit between the fenders unless you turn the wheels inside out, which some people do, but even then it will be a tight fit, and if you are thinking about hauling both the M and the H at the same time you will be disappointed because it won"t work. I won"t say that truck won"t handle it, but you are going to be very disappointed there also.

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