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FARMALL BN DRIVE TRAIN NOISE

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PA. FARMER JOHN

10-14-2005 20:53:07




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i have a thump,thump,thump in the drive shaft from the clutch to the rear. it seems louder at the rear then it does at the clutch end so i feel it is ressonating forward. any one have this problem before ? it does it in neutral !!! sounds like a gear box that has a gear with a few teeth missing on it. never had one apart so i don`t know what to be looking for. this is a farmall bn and it does not make the noise when the clutch is depressed!! if anyone has had this problem and can help me in trouble shooting it i would appreciate all help, thank you.

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Dave BN.

10-16-2005 08:12:19




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 Re: FARMALL BN DRIVE TRAIN NOISE in reply to PA. FARMER JOHN, 10-14-2005 20:53:07  
Sorry for the late post. I Don't get to read the board every day. Your problem is most likely the oil slinger gear. It is towards the rear of the lower shaft in the transmission. It is fairly large diameter and quite thin and is made of die cast and is very easy to spot as it looks different than the other gears. It is ment to provide oil to the bearings when the tractor is running but not moving, like when using the belt pully. I would replace the transmission oil (90W) first to see if that quiets it down. The fill hole is by the shifting lever and the drain hole is at the bottom rear on the right. These are flat pipe plugs with square holes that no wrench will fit. I made a tool to remove them by grinding a square end on a big allen bolt. If you have a belt pulley there is a drain in the bottom of that housing. It is a small pipe plug. There is a fill on the top also I believe. It takes a small amount, 1/2 cup maybe. The tranny takes 5 quarts I think and the level check is on the left side of the transmission behind the brake shaft if I remember right. Fill the transmission to this level and do not overfill or your oil seals will most likely leak. I flush my gear boxs out when I change fluid. For example you could pour some "cheap" motor oil in the fill hole and let it drain out the bottom. See what it looks like and repeat if it looks really bad. If you need to replace that oil slinger gear you'll have to repost as that is quite involved. Good Luck. Dave.

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Hugh MacKay

10-15-2005 02:34:20




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 Re: FARMALL BN DRIVE TRAIN NOISE in reply to PA. FARMER JOHN, 10-14-2005 20:53:07  
John: Most thumps turn out to be loose wheels, wheel weights. However from what you describe, get a light and check drive shaft coupler through hole in torque tube for adjusting clutch. That coupler may be loose. Those are the easy checks.

Next, firmly secure tractor, I like chaining drawbar to another vehicle. Jack each rear wheel separately, watching for looseness in rear axles as wheels clear ground. While you have each wheel jacked, start tractor and put it in gear allowing the jacked wheel to turn freely. While turning listen for the noise. If you wish to isolate just where, get a stethoscope or use an old wooden handle. cut both ends square. Put one end to your ear and other end at various places on tractor drive train. You will be amazed at what you can hear, and how closely you can pinpoint the problem. I will warn you, first time you do this you'll think whole tractor is a wreck, as you will hear a lot of noise you've never heard before.

I had been using the old broom handle trick for years, when one day I was in a heavy truck shop, saw the technicians using stethoscopes. He told me it didn't require a very expensive stethoscope, becomming a very valuable tool in shops.

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pa farmer john

10-15-2005 18:57:26




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 Re: FARMALL BN DRIVE TRAIN NOISE in reply to Hugh MacKay, 10-15-2005 02:34:20  
thank you much,hugh, for pointing me in a direction! the trans.runs quite as a mouse when the tractor is in motion,,it only makes this noise in neutral. again , thank you and may God bless you and yours!!



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