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Farmall H vs M

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Matt Frye

10-26-2005 21:04:13




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In working with older tractors over the year, I guess I thought I knew the difference between an H and an M. Still, I ran across an old Farmall M today and in looking at pictures online, I can't see the difference between Farmall's Hs and Ms.

Can anyone enlighten me?




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farmallhal

10-28-2005 11:56:38




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 Re: Farmall H vs M in reply to Matt Frye, 10-26-2005 21:04:13  
Matt, in the front picture (PA260082) you posted below do you see the two approx. 1" holes just below the first wide bar from the top in the grille? Those holes are below the first wide bar on a M and above the first wide bar on a H. The tractor you posted is clearly a M. Hope this helps. Hal



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r4etired

10-27-2005 17:56:46




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 Re: Farmall H vs M in reply to Matt Frye, 10-26-2005 21:04:13  
Frame rails on The M are 20in wide,same as the 450 and the 560.The H are 18in wide.Very obvious from the front.



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Farmallkid From Ont,

10-27-2005 10:24:48




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 Re: Farmall H vs M in reply to Matt Frye, 10-26-2005 21:04:13  
The M is bigger, bigger tires, bigger engine, and alot of little things. As one guy on here said, H stands for handy and M stands for MIGHTY!!!



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sammy the RED

10-27-2005 07:37:51




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 Re: Farmall H vs M in reply to Matt Frye, 10-26-2005 21:04:13  
M's are bigger and more power.



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Vern

10-26-2005 21:16:43




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 Re: Farmall H vs M in reply to Matt Frye, 10-26-2005 21:04:13  
The most obvious difference from the side is the angle of the steering shaft to the gas tank/hood line. The M engine sits higher so the steering shaft is closer to the gas tank.



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Hugh MacKay

10-27-2005 13:15:33




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 Re: Farmall H vs M in reply to Vern, 10-26-2005 21:16:43  
Vern: While I can see where your coming from, I don't think you can say engine sits higher in the M. I'd be willing to bet the bottom of M oil pan is actually closer to ground than H oil pan. You might say the M engine is probably about 5" higher top to bottom. We do know the crankshaft will be about the same height. This extra height in engine makes the entire hood higher.

Plain and Simple the M engine is close to 100 more cubic inches than the H and the larger part of that comes from stroke, thus it will be both higher and lower from crankshaft.

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Dick Davis

10-27-2005 03:00:20




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 Re: Farmall H vs M in reply to Vern, 10-26-2005 21:16:43  
Battery location on straight H & M is a big clue.



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Ernest

10-27-2005 06:37:40




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 Re: Farmall H vs M in reply to Dick Davis, 10-27-2005 03:00:20  
Not really! We have a 1952 H and a 1952 (superM) same as a 1951 M. Battery location is same! Seat is the same!

Matt
You have to look at the H and M for yourself in person you will see the H is a scaled down version of the M. Hoods different, engine and carburator are smaller in the H, It is shorter than the M like said above (hight), Brakes are amaller on an H. About the only thing they have in common is the Steering wheel, seat, tires (that depends on the year of the H the rear tires)

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CNKS

10-27-2005 17:47:00




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 Re: Farmall H vs M in reply to Ernest, 10-27-2005 06:37:40  
Ernest, the battery on one of your tractors is in the wrong location. The M battery is crosswise under the gas tank. The H battery is mounted lengthwise to the left side and partially under the gas tank. H wheelbase is 88.5 inches, M wheelbase is 88.75 inches, they use many of the same implements. The M and H can use the same tires, from the factory M tires were usually 1 inch wider.



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Ernest

10-28-2005 06:57:51




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 Re: Farmall H vs M in reply to CNKS, 10-27-2005 17:47:00  
I was thinking for the unknowing person, under the seat battery. The battery location is a big clue by (Dick Davis) did not mean much unless you explain what the clue is. My batteries are under the gas tank. The H is length wise If you call it that (kinda hard to tell its almost square. The M is cross-wise.



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Ernest

10-28-2005 06:57:36




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 Re: Farmall H vs M in reply to CNKS, 10-27-2005 17:47:00  
I was thinking for the unknowing person, under the seat battery. The battery location is a big clue by (Dick Davis) did not mean much unless you explain what the clue is. My batteries are under the gas tank. The H is length wise If you call it that (kinda hard to tell its almost square. The M is cross-wise.



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Hugh MacKay

10-27-2005 13:02:28




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 Re: Farmall H vs M in reply to Ernest, 10-27-2005 06:37:40  
Ernest: The H and M are the same length.



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Ernest

10-28-2005 06:50:09




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 Re: Farmall H vs M in reply to Hugh MacKay, 10-27-2005 13:02:28  
I said HEIGHT!



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Hugh MacKay

10-28-2005 16:22:46




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 Re: Farmall H vs M in reply to Ernest, 10-28-2005 06:50:09  
Ernest: I took your statment as shorter as opposed to longer. Your wording is a bit misleading.



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Matt Frye

10-28-2005 09:08:50




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 Re: Farmall H vs M in reply to Ernest, 10-28-2005 06:50:09  
Thanks for the information all. Here are some pictures of the M in question.



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