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Hard starting I 340

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Doug in Wi

11-16-2005 11:14:16




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I rebuilt this about 10 years ago. Before I did that, it started easy. Now, I have to plug it in everytime the temp is below 40 degrees or so, then it pops right off. Runs very well when it gets going. Have changed plugs and points/condensor about 3 times, checked the gap for .0020 in the points many times and nothing seems to help. ????? Any ideas??




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El Toro

11-16-2005 12:56:10




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 Re: Hard starting I 340 in reply to Doug in Wi, 11-16-2005 11:14:16  
Pull the coil wire from the cap and hold within 1/4 to 3/8" of a good ground and have someone
to crank over the engine with the ignition swith on. Should have a nice blue spark. You may want to hold that wire with a pair of insulated pliers. Lighter oil makes a big difference too,
when it's cold. Your plug wires may need changing too. Hal



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RustyFarmall

11-16-2005 11:48:20




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 Re: Hard starting I 340 in reply to Doug in Wi, 11-16-2005 11:14:16  
Did you grind the valves and seats when you rebuilt it? Have you gone back and re-set the valve gap? Run a compression check, if it checks out good, how about the ignition coil?



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captiank

11-16-2005 11:45:03




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 Re: Hard starting I 340 in reply to Doug in Wi, 11-16-2005 11:14:16  
Some things to check.

Check to make sure that the choke plate is on the rod and closing all the way.

Take a compression test. Ideally, compression on most engines should be 100+, but the most important is that all cylinders be within 10% of each other. If not check valve clearances and make sure they are correct.

Point gap should be 0.020 (I think that is what you meant instead of 0.0020) and the points should be clean.

Check the timing. If it is too late it might cause it to start hard, if it’s too early the starter will slow every time a piston comes to the top dead center on compression.

Check the spark. Should be crisp blue spark jumping at least 3/8 inch to a good ground.

Check spark plug gap. Opening it up to 0.030 might help starting if you have good spark.

With the engine running take a can of starting fluid or carb cleaner and spray it around where the intake manifold connects to the head. You are looking for any signs of the engine speeding up which would indicate an air leak. Correct if you find something.

You might try lighter oil, say 10w-30 for cold weather or 5w-20 for extremely cold (below 0 F) temps.

Good luck…

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doug in Wi

11-17-2005 05:43:17




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 Re: Hard starting I 340 in reply to captiank, 11-16-2005 11:45:03  
Thanks so much guys. I see a lot of things I have never checked such as valve gap, coil and plug wires, etc. Tha coil is quite new and has been changed since it started acting this way so doubt if that's it. I meant to say 20 thousandths for the gap in the points. Guess some remedial math is in order for me. I'm not sure where the timing should be. I have a timing light but the book is confusing to me. Thanks again. I'll try some of these tips. Doug
PS: The valves and seats were all ground. Would it be in the book how to set the valve gap? I assume that is done under the valve cover. I don't want to take the head off. I do appreciate this advice and I'm trying to learn the finer points of engine tuning.

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captaink

11-17-2005 06:57:26




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 Re: Hard starting I 340 in reply to doug in Wi, 11-17-2005 05:43:17  
I'm not sure if it is in the owners manual or not, but it would be in a shop manual for sure. To set the valve gap all you have to do is take off the valve cover.

The valve gap is measured between the rocker arm and the valve stem when the piston in that cylinder is a top dead center on the compression cycle. (Take out the spark plugs, put your thumb over the spark plug hole and turn the engine slowly. When you feel air push past, put a piece of stiff wire in the hole and when it stops moving out, the piston is at top dead center.) There was some discussion on the board yesterday about what temperature the engine should be to set valves. My opinion is if the shop manual says hot, then it should be done after the engine is thoroughly warmed up and done with it as close to operating temp as possible. If the spec says warm, then set them with the engine at some comfortable temp above freezing.

Hope this helps.

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