double wheel weights on farmall h good or bad?

You're going to need more than two sets of weights.

My old H has one factory set on the inside next to the wheel, then an "off-breed" outter set. I then added calcium up to the brim in the tires and that brings it to about 600 lbs per side.

Don't forget to air up those fronts to 'bout 55 or 60 lbs also.

Allan

Dunno, I always push that pressure up there; haven't had a problem yet.

Allan

I can't ever remember "not" having an H under a loader. They work just fine, always have; maybe more so today, as they aren't big enough to do much else other than drag the yard once in awhile.

Only thing I did notice, was that the older I got, the nicer the add-on power steering came to be. :>)

That H's fifth gear is what made 'em nice to run to the other end of a half-mile long hay field.

And like I've said a hundred times before, don't forget to cinch up 'er belly 'cause they will pop. :>)

One thing I will say, I just cannot imagine using a trike front end under a loader tractor. When you get a big, heavy load 15' or higher up in the air, that thing sways around bad enough the way it is, even with a wide front.

Dunno, we all do it differently I guess, but Hs, Ms and loaders are just plain commonplace 'round here.

Allan

Currently I'm finishing assembling a 3-point hitch. Someone had a dual-cyl frame off an M that I couldn't resist. Got all the parts now and it'll be coming back from the welder (small cyl mount repair) on Wednesday.

What front end do you have on your H? Power steering? Just curious.

Don't let these guys scare you away from using your H, Grandpa fed cattle with an H (narrow front) and a Farmhand F10 loader for many years without trouble. Just use common sense, don't turn with the loader raised more than a foot off the ground, go slow, etc. Be safe.

Same way here. At one time, every darned farm within eight states had one of those old farmhands for puttin' up hay.

My neighbor still uses one and gets along just fine.

Allan

Allan

Here in the east we all get 36" plus of annual rainfall. Storing hay outside in stacks or round bales has never been an option. A few folks tried stacks here, and found them to be water saturated by the time they went to use them. In 1975 the first year I had my round baler, I left about 1/2 dozen bales outside to see what would happen. Come March they were a mass of mould. Piling round bales on ground with one of those large tarps over them is some better, but the bottom layer will still be water saturated from ground moisture.

That anual rainfall also dictated we could not house livestock outside as you folks do. Some folks tried, usually they didn't last more than couple of years.

Having said all this, we required a loader vehicle that would work inside buildings. It had to be compact and it had to be agile. When I went to round bales my only storage was second story that had been used for small square bales. Square bales had always been stored directly above the livestock to reduce labour. At the time I had a Case 1737 skid steer loader and 560 with IH 2000 loader. Those second floor storages were basically 12' spans with 2x12 floor joists on 16" centers and floored over with 2" lumber. I had to reduce my bales to 4' diameter and under 1,000 lbs to keep from breaking through floor between floor joists. 560 wouldn't even work in there, but would have broke floor just as much as skid steer.

Having that skid loader around back in those days we soon found out it would out perform most tractors in any situation. By todays standards my skid steer was not large yet it would load most material we had to load in half the time it took the 560. My dad was loading some excess fill one day with 560 and unto dump truck. My dad was a good operator going back to his first loader on an H then 300 followed by 560. He was known as one of the better tractor loader operators in the area. I came up the other side of dump truck with skid steer. We both agreed I had put 80% of the load on, when we were done. Within two years I purchased a second Case skid steer and the 2000 loader from the 560 was packed away in the shed. 5 years later I sold it. The 560 went back to where it was most productive, drawbar and pto.

Right away Lekander is asking if he dare put 55# air in tires rated for 35#. I hope you tell him he needs new tires. Also tell him how many clutches the H will go through in next ten years. We used to get two years per clutch on the H doing loader work. My skid steers each went 10,000 hours before any major repairs. As I see it in an area the size of Nebraska shouldn't be any need to pile round bales 15' up. It really wont hurt you to know a little bit about the world outside those 8 states.

You really think that jab was necessary?

Allan

Since moving here to Ontario where 95% of the land base is cultivated farmland. One of the hardest things we've had to get used to is wind. Then I go here on YT and find many other areas of North American have wind. One thing I've learned to trees slowed down those winds. I think we will stay here in Ontario, just got to get out of this snowbelt and into an area with some more trees.

We came here for two reasons, our children live here, and I always wanted to see all this great farmland within 500 miles of the Great Lakes. I don't mean just drive through it at 60 mph, but really explore. I had visited Ontario many times in the past, having lived here 4 years now, my opinion of Ontario is much different from before.

Now if I'm going to tour in detail all that great farmland within 500 miles of the Great Lakes, I ask you what better travel agency could I find than the guys here at YT. Only one problem, now I want to go further than 500 miles. I want to see how your drylanders in NE operate, I want to see 300 bu corn in IA, I want to see what took Cowman form Eastern OH to NE. I could go on and on.

I know what you guys did with those Farmhand loaders. Can see why you needed them. They were certainly not for us. One of the most facinating parts of YT, we can learn a lot of why the other guy had to do it a certain way.

The very best to give stability and lower the center of graviety is fluid in rear tires. That combined with rear wheel tread of 72" or more will give stability from upset. Wheel weights will help as well but that weight is not as close to ground as the fluid, thus does not lower the center of graviety as much as fluid. You may well say the question I asked was about traction. Well my friend, you have a greater problem than traction. If the rear wheels are loosing traction, that indicates not enough weight on rear wheels, and if you have to ask if worth the effort, then may I suggest you are not far away from upset and very likely serious injury.

The very best weight for loader work is counter weight. 1000 lbs. right on the drawbar, about the same weight as you put in loader bucket. Bear in mind this counter weight will not lower the center of graviety by much.

Having said all this, I tend to agree with gene bender, H with a loader not much of a round bale mover. In fact I will go one step further by suggesting you are an accident looking for a place to happen.

Personally, I took my last front end loader off a tractor in 1978. A tractor is one of the poorest engineered vehicles, front end loaders were ever placed on. I know folks will say, I can't afford to have two machines. Well I could never afford non productive machines. I have never seen anything more usless for field work than a conventional farm tractor with a loader hanging out front. If you are only going to do loader work, why would anyone want the many properties of a tractor. By the the way my last tractor loader was a IH 2000 mounted on a Farmall 560. I replaced it with a 40 hp skidsteer that would run circles around 560 even on round bales. The 560 went back to doing what it does best, drawbar and pto work.